The blog of author Dennis Cooper

Galerie Dennis Cooper presents … Liz Larner

black iris, 2021

‘ORCHIDS, PENNIES, BUTTERMILK. A sphere made from sixteen miles of surgical gauze and a cube woven out of thin strips of copper. Sly arranged marriages between rubber and wood; leather and false eyelashes; sand, stone, and bark. Gossamer lattices and sheets of chain. Forms rendered in polyurethane, steel, and bronze; in found objects; in porcelain and ceramic. Viewers who have only encountered Los Angeles–based sculptor Liz Larner’s work piecemeal across her more than three-decade career might be forgiven for feeling a certain bewilderment in the face of the stylistic and material diversity that has characterized her admirably restless practice from its very beginnings. Now the subject of a welcome survey—the most expansive overview of the artist’s oeuvre in some twenty years, curated by Mary Ceruti, director of Minneapolis’s Walker Art Center, and currently on view in New York at SculptureCenter, where it was organized by interim director Kyle Dancewicz—Larner’s exhilaratingly heterogeneous works can finally be considered in relation to one another, and in ways that demonstrate the conceptual threads that have always united them.

‘Two early pieces in particular articulate the kinds of formal alterities that Larner has frequently sought out and conspired to hold in productive tension. Made within a year of each other, in the first phase of her career, Corner Basher, 1988, and Bird in Space, 1989, could hardly be more dissimilar. The former is an instrument of destruction—a small wrecking ball flung back and forth against intersecting walls by a motorized stanchion that owes a bit to both Jean Tinguely and Survival Research Laboratories—while the latter is an ethereal space-filling filigree of silk and nylon inspired by Brancusi. Both, however, diverge from their inspirations in crucial ways. While Corner Basher exerts the same sort of brute force that Mark Pauline’s chaotic mechanisms do, the critical difference is that its destructive energies are activated not by the artist but by the viewer—jettisoning hierarchical command and control in favor of a modality that privileges spectatorial agency. And if Larner’s Bird in Space echoes the elegance of the Romanian master’s signature work, it also strategically expands its field of engagement toward her preferred schema, from unidirectional regard to attentively multivalent, embodied encounter.’ — Jeffrey Kastner, Artforum

‘I came to being an artist after studying photography in the 1980s at CalArts. I had studied philosophy and transferred there in my third year, and what a lucky break that was. It was a very interesting time, that particular era, and what we were reading and discussing made me decide that what I wanted to do was make things. In some sense, I never had an education in being a sculptor. My work started with incredibly basic questions like What are materials? What does it mean to make something? I remember being at that stage in my life and thinking, Well, you know, I could be a photographer, but I think that would be bad for me, almost spiritually, for lack of a better word. I felt like I needed to engage with the physical world and not be behind the camera making images of things—not having that additional distance, but being in my body and making work about being embodied.

‘I didn’t have a “unified vision”—and I’ve stuck with this and have never considered it a detriment—because I felt that materials and forms have so many different potentials. That could be why I’ve never had an identifiable style. I think this is part of what has been confusing for people. In the beginning, I would do a show that was about something, and then I would do another show, and for me it was clearly the next thing to do, but it wasn’t really in relation to the last show for anyone but me. I wouldn’t say that there’s no throughline. I would say that there’s a throughline that isn’t recognizable because it’s not the kind of throughline that people have come to expect. Part of it is trying to come up with different ways of getting people to engage with sculpture—and sculpture is the best way for this to happen—with all their senses and movement. I’ve come to call it encountering, though I wish there were a better word. But it’s amazing how it happens. That means of reception is a lot of what I’m working with.

‘Obviously materials and color are important, as are concepts of reality and illusion. And I think pathos is something that runs through my work, and this goes back to some of the very first things I made, the culture works. This thing is alive, and it’s digging through layers of colored food. And then it makes its own bloom. And is resplendent. And then it starts to die in front of you! I had started making sculptures essentially as receptacles for the cultures; the way they were suspended in space was a big thing for me. Coming from photography, you take a photograph, you figure out how to frame it. But to put a petri dish in front of people, that’s a problem. And that rapidly spilled over into making these sculptures that were informed by what I thought the cultures were about. The sculptures have come in all manner of materials—rubber, chain, silk, wood, metal, leather, fabric, found objects, ceramics. The past decade or so with the ceramics is one of the most sustained engagements I’ve had with one medium. And one reason for that is that ceramics let me do things that I always wanted to do but that took too long, specifically to get to the color part. It seems to bug people that I won’t say if the ceramic pieces, because they’re on the wall, are paintings, sculpture, or ceramics. I don’t know what they are. I don’t think it really matters, and they probably have a little bit of all of those forms in them. I wanted to work on the wall and still consider it to be part of my sculptural practice because I’ve doggedly persisted with the idea that I’m a sculptor. Hey, walls are spaces too.’ — Liz Larner



Liz Larner @ Regen Projects
Liz Larner @ Galerie Max Hetzler
Liz Larner: Don’t put it back like it was
Liz Larner and the Upcycling of Material
Liz Larner’s Corner Basher channels the helpless and hopeful rage of our day
The Horrific Beauty of Plastic Polluted Sea Foam and Asteroids Meeting on Earth
Liz Larner by Jane Dickson
Surgical gauze, false eyelashes, ceramics, bacteria, and steel
Liz Larner Makes Sculptures For A New Era
Liz Larner – Why I Create
From pedestal to petri dish
4 Questions: Artist Liz Larner
“Space is better than time, but time is okay”
Liz Larner and the Physical Power of Objects



Liz Larner – The Artist’s Studio

(At Home) On Art and its Ecologies: Artist Talk with Liz Larner


Artists on Artists: Liz Larner on Chris Burden


by Pac Pobric

Liz, I don’t think we know your work all that well in New York, but you’ve had seven solo exhibitions at Regen Projects in L.A., you show with Max Hetzler in Europe, and you’ve been making work for 30 years. I want to congratulate you on the show. It’s really impressive. One thing that struck me is that it could almost be a group show. You have all these very different kinds of things. How do you avoid falling into old patterns?

I have said that kind of jokingly, about the group show. But there are patterns, though they don’t always play out the same way. I would rather have an idea that gets put into different guises, and see what happens. I usually work in shows: I’m doing a show, and it’s about something, and then I move on to the next. But this kind of thing, where you’re taking stuff from 30 years ago and putting it together—it’s really a credit to [the show’s organizers, Walker Art Center director] Mary Ceruti and [Sculpture Center deputy director] Kyle Dancewicz. It was so gratifying to see their interpretation.

Do you remember Hands (1993), near the stairwell? When I made that, people were just so dismayed, because it was going in a direction they didn’t think I was going. It was disappointing to them; it threw them. People thought I was a post-Minimalist or something, but I never thought of myself as a post-Minimalist. I was working with forms and colors before, and it was abstract, but abstraction and figuration have never been areas that couldn’t blend. I wanted to do both. I wanted to include all of it.

And maybe there was a conceptual aspect to it. I was going to [show at] Sonsbeek [in the Netherlands], and they had me come over to Holland to look at some sites. I was at the Gemeentemuseum. There were two statues across this courtyard from each other, and both had their hands knocked off. It just made me think: it’s such a classic necessity in sculpture, to do the hand. And I thought people could follow along. When I first showed it, it was in Paris and the show was called “Possibilities of the Existence of Meaning, Without Words, Inside Disorder.” Then I showed it again in New York, and the show was just titled “Without Words.” It was about a gesture. There are only 10 hands in that group, but depending on how they’re presented, they read very differently.

You use a lot of wordplay in your titles.

I love language, and I’m in awe of great writers. I don’t know how they can do it. The most I can put together is a title [laughs].

But they’re very evocative titles.

Well, thank you, I am proud of my titles. They really help me to add another element, and I play around with it a lot. The “Cultures” are titled after what they’re cultured from. So Orchid Butter Penny (1987)—that’s from before, when I was just putting stuff in petri dishes. But I got an inoculating wand eventually, and I went to the Twin Towers and took cultures from the front doors, and to the Empire State Building and took an inoculation from the roof. That’s what’s in Primary, Secondary: Culture of Empire State Building and Twin Towers (1988).

It seems important that you live and work in L.A. Have you ever read anything by Mike Davis? I’m reading Ecology of Fear, I’ll just read you the blurb on the back. “The classic book on L.A. as a locus of ecological destruction—in culture and in reality.” What’s so fascinating about Davis is that he’s good not only with social and political history, but also ecological processes and facts. It does seem like you Californians are forced to confront the natural world more so than we do in New York.

I don’t know Mike Davis’s history, but I was born at the end of 1960. I grew up on a farm in the Sutter Basin, about 60 miles northwest of Sacramento. I grew up next to the Sacramento River. There were crop dusters that sprayed DDT on the field next to our house until I was seven. My encounter with nature and culture was impressive, even as a young kid. And then when I moved to Los Angeles—Los Angeles has changed so much [over the years], but it’s very wild. I’ve seen a family of raccoons running across the street and diving into the gutter. There are animals all over the place. I’m also super interested in Joan Didion. That’s someone who had a huge influence on me. It really tears down the mythos of California, which is this makeup on top of a corpse.

Since we’re talking about the environment, one of the questions I sent you before we spoke has to do with the fact that in the past, you’ve said that the built environment is the world of men, and you’re not interested in repeating those forms. Would you call your works feminist forms?

Okay, so I had to write this down. I’m just going to read it: “New forms look like things that we don’t recognize, that there aren’t yet words for. They are invisible to most of us. I try to see them but probably miss a lot of them, even though they’re all around. Maybe new forms aren’t made by humans. Maybe we only copy them when we see them. I’m not sure of this. I guess they emerge and someone says, ‘Look,’ and then they have to change.”

And then I have, “I think that some things that are currently being called assemblages can be considered feminist forms. Something that is together, but flexible and unfixed; linked, but free moving; mixed in a knot in a way that is together and emergent. Something that can accommodate its own indeterminacy. Something capable of adaptation.”

Let me ask you some specific forms. I know you’re really interested in corners. What’s important or interesting about corners?

You know what I just found out? My husband—he does music—and I are actually moving out of California. So we’re building a studio, and he’s been figuring out how he wants to make it. And one thing that’s fascinating and new to me about corners is that sound gets trapped in them.

I did not know that.

Yeah. And corners are places where things intersect, and start and end. Do you know the artist Eric Wesley? He’s a California artist. He’s going to be in the Whitney Biennial this year. He spoke on a panel last week at Sculpture Center about my work, and he brought up Corner Basher and said something that was really astute. He said, “Though that’s the name, it is not the action of the machine.” And that’s really true. The machine cannot quite get to the corner. I’ve made a number of works that address the corner, and none of them do the same thing. It’s a place to keep thinking about.

I should mention that with Corner Basher—I’ve never, not once, not for a second in my life, been afraid at a museum. And I was legitimately afraid! It’s not only extremely aggressive, it’s also remarkably unstable because it’s on wheels. And it spins really fast!

It could go on even higher. I turned it down because when I first got it, it really did get too unstable. I first showed it in L.A., but when I showed it in New York at 303 Gallery, it didn’t have attachments [holding it] to the wall. It was in a corner and the on/off switch was right by the elevator. This woman came in, turned it on, and turned it all the way up. But because it wasn’t chained to the wall, it started moving towards her. And they had to come out and save her, or it would have been bad. What I like is when you turn it off, it has this weird tetherball balance. It’s just—it’s so overly dramatic, that piece.

One final question on photography, because you have a photography background. How has it contributed to your work as a sculptor? Most artworks today are consumed through images. Is there anything you try to do to account for that?

You know, I honestly believe that sculpture cannot be photographed. It cannot really be conveyed. And that’s what I love. That’s what I wanted to deal with. That’s why I think people are happy with my show: there’s this other side to the thing, about walking around the show and being embodied, and really sensing the material. That’s not available on screens. It gives you a different kind of knowledge.

Your work really does seem to resist the culture of the image. Before I saw the show, I had just seen pictures of your work, and I didn’t understand anything until I saw it in person.

I take that as a compliment. To me that’s like, I’m doing my job.



iv (inflexion), 2014–15


i (calefaction), 2014-2015


Liz Larner, Untitled, 2001


RWBs, 2005


Wrapped Corner, 1991


Corner Basher, 1993


Firestone, 2019


Copper cube, woven, 1988


2 as 3 and Some, Too, 1997-98


Two or Three or Something, 1998–1999


6, 2010-11


Asteroid (Spock), 2020


boney ridge, 2016


X, 2012


smile (alluvium), 2010-11


Guest, 2004


Devex Yellow, 1997


Hands, 1993


Tropicana Pool Water, Mercury and Guitar Strings, 1987


Fix, 2011


Every Artist Gave a Breath, 1988


Every Artist Gave a Breath, 1989


Ignis (Fake), 1999


Reflector Wizards , 1992


No M, No D, Only S & B, 1990


smile (abiding), 1996–2005


yes this too, 2015


yes this too, 2015


Untitled [Wall], 2001


Smile, This is a Pipe, 2006


Gone, 1987-1992


Lux Interior (Platinum), 2012




p.s. Hey. As you may have noticed, my blog is suddenly requiring me to moderate the comments and approve of them individually before they can be posted. I have no idea why, and I’m hoping to get rid of this nuisance/ glitch today, but, in the meantime, just know that I’ll obviously give my approval to all the comments, and no worries. ** David, You know what, I’m not surprised, ha ha. Yes, I’m not sure if the words ‘Kip Noll’ are on Facebook’s watch list, which would be very strange, or if my designation of [NSFW] is newly a red light to Facebook or what. How annoying. Cheers in return. ** Dominik, Hi!!! Glad you dug it, pal. I know, scary. When I first moved to Paris, not that long ago, we used to get a few serious snowfalls and coverings every winter. It’s true there are some shades of blue that are completely unacceptable. Good eye, love. Love explaining to me why milk is sold in France only unrefrigerated and why milk in the United States is only sold refrigerated, G. ** David Ehrenstein, The age of yellowed porn! A friend of mine back in the day was the cameraman on ‘Pacific Coast Highway’. ** Misanthrope, Kip would never become a huge star today. But then neither would Frankie Avalon. Okay, very vague memories of Jack Hannah now. Those kinds of shows weren’t really my TV scene. Genetics are mysterious, for sure. I mean, not only have I never gotten Covid, I haven’t had so much as a head cold ever since the pandemic started. Fucking weird, man. Big up on the lessening of your cigarette intake. How much do you smoke per day du jour? ** Steve Erickson, Hi. Yeah, I’m curious to see if my blog wil get that Facebook warning every day now or whether it was Kip Noll-specific. Stress will totally do that. Have you ever done yoga or anything like that? I used to do yoga years ago when I used to get especially stressed out, and it did seem to make a real difference? ** Tosh Berman, Hi. Like I said to Steve, I’m curious to see if my blog will now be permanently stuck with that Facebook trepidation thing. I hope fucking not. I complained, but we all know what complaining to Facebook results in: zip. Counterpoint, yes. I don’t know Alias Books East. Cool, I’ll hit next time time I’m in LA. Thanks, sir. ** Verity Pawloski, Hi. Oh, horror. Have you managed to dry out? I have a neighbor upstairs whose toilet (directly above mine) likes to overflow once or twice every year and turn my bathroom walls into an ugly abstract painting. ** Maria, Isabella, Camila, Malaria, Gabriela, You’re most welcome. He could try a penis pump? Happy day! ** Bill, Ha ha. I had Kip in one of my pieces too. A poem. Not a good poem, but it wasn’t his fault. My friend the artist Richard Hawkins made a number of pieces that incorporated Kip’s “brother” Scott. What’s up with you, bud? ** Colin Herd, Hi, Colin! How very, very lovely to see you! I just recently found an old post wherein Kevin Killian introduced one of your books, and I’m going to restore it soon. That was big fun: Glasgow in general, and of course the pizza munching. I don’t know what Muay Thai, but I’ll go find out. Cool, and … ouch! That’s a serious commitment. Brenda Frazer: Oh, that’s very interesting. I didn’t recognise the name, but I just did a search and found out she used to be Bonnie Bremser. I did read poems by her under that name ages ago, maybe in an anthology (?), and I remember being very taken with them. Thanks for the link to the Kickstarter campaign. I’ll go chip in a little. What a fantastic project. I really hope it comes to pass. I’d love to read her work more thoroughly. Thanks, Colin. You sound great! I hope somehow I’ll get to see you ere too long. As ever, please come visit Paris! We’re all up and running over here again. Love, me. ** R Y /\ /\/ / angusraze :), Hey, dude. Oh, wow, yeah, definitely birds not of a feather or whatever they say: you and your bro. I’m with you on trashy TV. Even people talking animatedly about that shit on social media makes me fear for the world. Interesting about your parents. Yeah, my artistic bent came out of seeming nowhere too. Well, my grandmother was a ‘Sunday painter’, so I guess there’s that lineage. Mishima’s great, yeah, as a writer. Have you see the Paul Schrader film ‘Mishima’? I haven’t. I’ve meant to. Some people swear by it. Anyway, cool research. Big up to you! ** Brian, Hey, Brian. It was fun to make that post. Took me into realms I normally don’t traverse when building posts. Ah, you all get the same script. Well, I hope it’s minimal and malleable. Do you know what it generally is? Like, is it a bit of an existing film, or did your prof write it? You probably don’t know yet. Interesting. I remember thinking ‘Festen’ was the best Dogme 95 film. Although I would imagine ‘Julien Donkey Boy’ gives it a serious run for its money. Those two classes do sound dreary. I’m glad you’re over their hump until at least next Tuesday. I hope your life raft weekend comes complete with all the amenities. Interesting plans? ** Okay. Today I give you a galerie show by one of my very, very favorite sculptors, Liz Larner. If you happen to be in/around NYC, there’s currently a retrospective of her work at the Sculpture Center, and I seriously envy you. Enjoy the show, hopefully, and see you tomorrow.


  1. _Black_Acrylic

    Liz Larner is a definite art God. I was just reading about her in a recent Frieze magazine and today’s post is an excellent guide to her stellar recent work.

    The new episode of Play Therapy is online here via Tak Tent Radio! Ben ‘Jack Your Body’ Robinson brings you Ukrainian experimentalism, Russian Dungeon Synth and for his beloved late father Pete, some Avant-Garde Jazz freakout too.

  2. David

    Always thought ‘NSFW’ was ‘Now suck fat worm’… I’m not up with these abrieviations … I’ll know in future…

    I went to see Ruby Wax doing a questions and answers thing last night…. I’m forcing myself out… more… and am feeling better for that…

    Some nice art here…. I did a broken mirror art piece some years back turned into a face….





    Yes! Thank you thank you

    Today I had an eye test! I bought some new glasses which I pick up in like 12 but damn that shits expensive, additionally as part of my eye test they shot like pressurised air into each of my eyes which was like kind of a crazy feeling, I’ve never had that before, I always enjoy eye tests, they actually feel quite fun to me like a game, plus I enjoy viewing the photos of my eyeballs with the optician because usually they’re absolutely gagging to explain to you all the parts of your eye like the veins and the arteries and where the ocular nerve connects to the eyeball structurally, I do genuinely find It exciting but it is funny to see them like all fidgety with excitement that they get to explore the photo with me, it’s cute!

    They are like a circular shape, which is apparently IN right now, I had rectangular frames since I was like 15, I’m 23 now so like I’m still – in terms of glasses fashions – in the mid 2010s I would say lol. So I’m excited, next month I get paid more from that cut off date thing so I’m going to buy some new clothes, I’m in the process of replacing my wardrobe and now I have a new bod that’s all like kinda toned and twinky I thought I would get some more interesting pieces, plus I work in a charity shop now so I can always look for stuff there. But I like more exclusive and unique pieces, but they’re always hard to come buy, I guess my style is almost Bjork-Like in the sense that like, I guess its like turning myself inside out, I feel the most human when I’m naked in the animalistic mammal sense, so when I wear clothes I feel an almost inclination to project a visual presentation of honesty, which DOES revolve around some cliche’s (black when sad, red when passionate) etc etc but I don’t know, It’s just how i communicate I guess.

    Today I have been listening to YEEZUS by Kanye West, to be honest, I find it a masterpiece, it’s incredibly ahead of it’s time and hasn’t aged a day considering it released in 2013, I love the harsh and minimal production and I liked how he celebrated new and experimental artists in several mediums to collaborate with him on the project, although he’s gone a bit off the rails recently I feel when he made Yeezus he was in a very good place, he was angry at the right people, it was a middle finger. I feel like alot of artists have a middle finger album, Kate Bush’s being The Dreaming, Bjork’s being Medulla, and this is very much Kanye’s middle finger album and it truly does sound like it, the opening song On Sight just opens with this blast of distorted noise, It’s crazy!

    Anyway yes, let me know what you think of the ep



  4. Tosh Berman

    Thanks for the Liz Larner introduction. By any chance have you seen the Charles Ray lecture series on YouTube. It’s under the Menil Collection and it’s magnificent. If you haven’t seen it, do watch it. I think Ray is super-great as an artist, but now I even admire him even more. He must be a great teacher. His observations on the sculpture are really something.

    And I also recommend Schrader’s Mishima film. It’s the best film on a writer. What makes it great besides the production, music (by Glass) and all of that is Schrader had to approach Mishima by his writings – and therefore one is getting a great introduction to Mishima’s life and work.

    I check out your blog almost every day and always through the Facebook link. Yesterday was the first time where I got that strange notice from Facebook. Today, at least on my end of the Facebook world, it’s normal. So hopefully you won’t have that problem anymore. It’s a weird coincidence that the Facebook issue came up around the same time as the comment monitor issue.

  5. Dominik


    Thank you for today’s show! It’d be lovely to see some of these pieces live – especially “Reflector Wizards”, “Hands”, and “Wrapped Corner”, but honestly… almost all of them.

    Same here; we used to have some decent snow every winter. Now that we’ve been talking about this, it snowed here this morning. It was a meek little effort but still. It made me think of you.

    Haha, one of life’s great mysteries. I had to think about it for a sec, but it’s mostly the refrigerated version here. If love enlightens you, please share his wisdom with me! Love going old school and sending you the new Iceage song “Pull Up” in a radio show, Od.

  6. Bill

    Love the Corner Basher. The hands are pretty fine too. I have a couple hands-themed piece ideas floating around, but they haven’t gone anywhere.

    Dennis do you know AL Snijders’ work, maybe from your Amsterdam days? I’m reading his collection translated by Lydia Davis. Davis’ intro, about doing the translations, is fascinating.


  7. Misanthrope

    Dennis, Man, couldn’t get here through FB. Kept saying this url wasn’t found on the server. Wth?

    No, you’re right re: them being stars today.

    As far as I know, I haven’t gotten the ro either. I have had a couple colds that weren’t that bad (were they or one of them the ro itself and I had mild symptoms? who knows?).

    I was up to over a pack a day. About 22 to 25 a day. Now at 12 to14 a day. Think I’m feeling better too.

    Have a great weekend, boss. 😀

  8. Conrad

    Hi Dennis !

    Wow, Liz Larner is great. Thank you for this post. I didn’t know her. I love everything here. Wow, this wooden spider ? This spider ? The firestone could be a great bûche. Yummy.

    I was at the Yves Tumor show last time : sometimes it felt like a parody of a rock show, sometimes it was great : a beautiful rendition of “Licking an Orchid”

    Many great concert in March I’m planning to go to : an evening curated by Parkingstone’s Simone Thiébaut @ Gaîté Lyrique + really interesting things at the Sonic Protest Festival.

    Don’t know if I’ve said it here already : I loved your haunted house lecture / demo at the Bourse de Commerce.

    Well, not many interesting things on my part. I did an interview with Théo Casciani, whose book Rétine I loved – it has not been translated in English yet, I think… The interview was really fun. He wants to re-write everything. So I’m waiting for his edits before I publish it. (It’ll be in French…)

    Let me know if you’re planning to go one of the Sonic Protest shows ! It’d be great to see you there. I had a spare ticket for an Injury Reserve show, and I wanted to invite you. But it turns out it was cancelled / postponed.

    Have a great weekend !

  9. Maria, Isabella, Camila, Malaria, Gabriela

    this pump thing what is? I think
    you are mentioning Coops
    I look up on internet
    now I want!!!
    this art ‘No M, No D, Only S & B’ is looking a lot like my husband’s penis
    one of
    is no good for me


    I go

    • Shane



  10. Verity Pawloski

    That’s sounds like a nightmare Dennis it truly does! good lord! and what wonderful art we have here, thank you so very much!

  11. Steve Erickson

    I’ve never done yoga. I should look into meditation. I’m continuing to feel very worn-out, but I’m looking into meds and therapy, with nothing settled yet.

    I’ve thought of pitching an article on Philippe Grandrieux and the connection between horror and experimental cinema to the site Certified Forgotten. I’d like to write about SOMBRE and one of his dance films. Which one do you think would work best in that context?

  12. Brian

    Hey Dennis,

    I don’t know what it that script will be at all, just that it’s a “suspense scene” and that we’re free to do whatever we please with it. I got my brother to watch “Festen” today and now he totally loved it too, yay. A lot of my friends are huge on “Julien Donkey-Boy”. I’ll have to see it. I don’t put any particular stock in Dogme 95 in and of itself, I guess it was just a shake-up some people felt they needed at the time, but it did produce some interesting work, certainly. My only plan for this weekend is to see friends, which may not be exceptionally interesting or out of the box but hey, it makes me happy enough. And to celebrate Pasolini’s centenary tomorrow somehow. I have to jump in re: your response to the previous commenter and swear by Schrader’s Mishima’s greatness myself. It’s one of my favorite films. I think you’d dig it or at least find it fun. Hope your own weekend plans are interesting (are they?). The terseness of this response is a product of how weirdly exhausted I am tonight. Talk to you on the other end of this weekend, by which time we’ll both hopefully be recharged.

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