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Gig #138: Prog Rock Cull (1968 – 1975): Soft Machine, Van Der Graff Generator, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Touch, Popera Cosmic, The Mothers of Invention, Family, Quatermass, Gracious!, Pink Floyd, Principal Edwards Magic Theatre, Amon Düül II, Matching Mole, Premiata Forneria Marconi, King Crimson, Fantasy, Magma, Todd Rundgren, Gentle Giant, Henry Cow, Magical Power Mako

* curated with the advice of composer/musician/sound designer Lee Ray

 

Soft Machine
Van Der Graff Generator
The Jimi Hendrix Experience
Touch
Popera Cosmic
The Mothers of Invention
Family
Quatermass
Gracious!
Pink Floyd
Principal Edwards Magic Theatre
Amon Düül II
Matching Mole
Premiata Forneria Marconi
King Crimson
Fantasy
Magma
Todd Rundgren
Gentle Giant
Henry Cow
Magical Power Mako

 

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Soft Machine Why Are We Sleeping? (1968)
‘”Why Are We Sleeping” is my favorite 3 and a half minutes from the Soft Machine LP, as Ayers distorted bass (and baritone vocals) fights playfully for space with Mike Ratledge’s organ swells, all the while drummer Robert Wyatt swings like a mofo (there’s no guitar on this track), capped off by those haunting female harmonies. Forty five years later and the song is STILL relevant, perhaps even more so- so much happens all around us but so many folks walk through life filled with apathy.’ — collaged

 

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Van Der Graaf Generator Necromancer (1968)
‘When punk hit, only a few ‘progressive’ bands were deemed acceptable; King Crimson, perhaps, but most definitely Van Der Graaf Generator. Formed by the crazed, roaring ‘Hendrix of the voice’, Peter Hammill, in late-’60s Manchester, they were more adventurous, difficult and kaleidosopic than any of their peers; small wonder, then, that John Lydon, Mark E Smith and Julian Cope are fans. “From the outside we must have looked completely mad,” says Hammill today, “because there weren’t then that many bands with saxes or organs or bass pedals, let alone ones without any guitar.”’ — Uncut

 

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The Jimi Hendrix Experience 1983 (A Merman I Should Turn To Be) (1968)
‘Some of his most radio-friendly hits appear on Electric Ladyland (“All Along the Watchtower,” “Voodoo Chile (Slight Return),” “Crosstown Traffic”). But buried in the middle, on side 3, is the album’s jewel and centerpiece, “1983…(A Merman I Should Turn To Be),” a proto-prog epic on the art of walking away from the nonsense humanity inflicts upon itself, “not to die but to be reborn, away from the land so battered and torn.” The music is a wild, left-field, Bolero-paced march where Hendrix overlaps his guitars and basses like a string section, affecting oceanic waves and surf, with sympathetic playing by steadfast Experience drummer Mitch Mitchell and flautist Chris Wood (on loan from Traffic).’ — Progarchy

 

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Touch Down At Circe’s Place (1969)
‘An American outfit, Touch were led by keyboardist Don Gallucci, who was inspired by The Beatles’ Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band. Complete with a prescient Roger Dean-style landscape on the cover, their only record is nothing less than the missing link between psychedelia and prog rock, with discursive arrangements, expansive solos and adventurous time signatures. Hendrix was said to be a fan. Recorded in 1968, by the time it was released in 1969, the band had already split and any potential recognition was swamped by the deluge of progressive rock proper that year, although the fact that they formed in the mid-60s suggests they may even pre-date King Crimson in terms of progressive musical ideas.’ — Louder Sound

 

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Popera Cosmic Etreinte Métronomique (1969)
‘For the few people lucky enough to have heard the entire album in the five decades since its release, the mythical Popera Cosmic LP is now considered to be France’s first dedicated progressive rock album and the shrouded blueprint for the hugely influential Gallic concept album phenomenon that followed – including Serge Gainsbourg’s Histoire De Melody Nelson and Gérard Manset’s La Mort D’Orion.’ — Keepers

 

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The Mothers of Invention The Uncle Meat Variations (1969)
‘By the time the Mothers of Invention’s fifth album Uncle Meat arrived on April 21, 1969, it was evident that Frank Zappa was a creative, prolific and adventurous force. Uncle Meat was the second double album of the Mothers’ brief recording career. Its songs were originally slated for integration into a multimedia project involving a movie by that same name (eventually shelved before evolving into 200 Motels) and a compilation record tentatively titled No Commercial Potential. As a result, Zappa’s latest mad-scientist invention took the increasingly put-upon, ever-recycling Mothers across broader musical terrain than most artists cover in entire careers. They visited disparate realms like jazz, blues, classical, musique concrete and rock. But unlike previous efforts, these directions were combined almost indiscriminately into Uncle Meat.’ — UCR

 

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Family Strange Band (1970)
‘Family is an English rock band, active from late 1966 to October 1973, and again since 2013 for a series of live shows. Their style has been characterised as progressive rock, as their sound often explored other genres, incorporating elements of styles such as folk, psychedelia, acid rock, jazz fusion, and rock and roll. The band achieved recognition in the United Kingdom through their albums, club and concert tours, and appearances at festivals. Family were particularly known for their live performances; one reviewer describing the band as “one of the wildest, most innovative groups of the underground rock scene”, noting that they produced “some of the rawest, most intense performances on stage in rock history” and “that the Jimi Hendrix Experience were afraid to follow them at festivals”.’ — collaged

 

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Quatermass Laughin’ Tackle (1970)
‘Power trio of keyboard, bass and drums. Straddling the line between hard rock and prog, there’s a little something here to appease fans of both styles. Keyboards apparently just piano and organ, with the latter being especially hot-wired to make the keyboardist’s style resemble FRUMPY keyboardist Jean-Jacques KRAVETZ, or perhaps Dave STEWART at his most maniacal (see “Dreams Wide Awake” for an example). He can lash out at his organ with a recklessness that puts EMERSON to shame, listen to the solo on “Post War, Saturday Echo” if you don’t believe me. Bass player John GUSTAFSON (pre-ROXY MUSIC) sings in a uncontrolled, manic voice that can often sound gut-wrenching. A couple of tracks (the ballad “Good Lord Knows” and the lengthy jam-orientated “Laughin’ Tackle” include massed strings.’ — Prog Archives

 

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Gracious! Super Nova (1970)
‘Gracious began as a schoolboy lark in 1964, when guitarist Alan Cowderoy and vocalist/drummer Paul Davis banded together to cover pop songs at school concerts. To arouse maximum ire at their Catholic school, the adopted the band name “Satan’s Disciples.” Renamed Gracious (or Gracious!), the band toured Germany in 1968. After playing on a double bill with the newly formed King Crimson, an awestruck Kitcat immediately adopted the Mellotron as a lead instrument for the band. Kitcat and Davis were the band’s composers, and Kitcat in particular lent the group its distinctive sound. He played the Mellotron as a lead instrument, much like a blues organ — that is, with percussive single notes, rather than the grandiose chords favored by bands that used it as a faux-orchestral backdrop.’ — Plain and Fancy

 

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Pink Floyd One Of These Days (1971)
‘”When we started on Meddle, we went into it with a very different working basis to any previous album in so much that we went into the studios with nothing prepared, and did a month of – well, we just called them nothings,” Nick Mason told Ted Alvy of KPPC-FM in 1971. “I mean, they were ideas that were put down extremely roughly. They might have been just a few chords, or they might have been a rhythm idea, or something else – and this was just put down, and then we took a month and examined what we got.” They got there together, swapping musical ideas and – in the case of the album-opening “One of These Days” – even swapping places. David Gilmour took up the bass as the song opens, before being joined by Waters. (You’ll notice the second double-tracked instrument has a flatter sound. “We didn’t have a spare set of strings for the spare bass guitar, so the second bass is very dull sounding,” Gilmour told Guitar World in 1993. “We sent a roadie out to buy some strings, but he wandered off to see his girlfriend instead.”) And Mason takes a rare vocal turn on “One of These Days.”‘ — UCR

 

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Principal Edwards Magic Theatre McAlpine Versus The Asmoto (1971)
‘John Peel saw Principal Edwards Magic Theatre play their debut gig at Portsmouth Guildhall and was so taken by their strongly narrative song suites, accompanied by choreographed dance and mime, that he signed the 14-person collective (including sound engineers and lighting designers) to his nascent Dandelion label, on which Soundtrack was one of the first releases in 1969. The follow-up was The Asmoto Running Band, produced by Nick Mason in 1971, and the band left Dandelion shortly before the label went under. But even without the benefit of the stage show, Soundtrack more than holds its own as a musical statement from this most singular of progressive rock groups.’– Louder Sound

 

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Amon Düül II Between The Eyes (1972)
‘Although it was the French who first took to Amon Düül 2, the British were not far behind and in 1972, Amon Düül came to the UK. A gig they played in Croydon, featuring material from their first two albums, was used as the basis for a live album. Live In London was released at a budget price as a means of introducing the public to the group, and, while well-received didn’t quite do enough to shake the stoner, complacent Britprog assumption that Anglo-American rock was where it was all at. Only with the first generation of punk would that happen. Meanwhile, however, John Weinzierl was gratified that a longhair like himself could walk the streets without raising the suspicion of the authorities that he was a terrorist. “When we came to England we couldn’t believe it. We were allowed in hotels. You couldn’t stay in hotels in Germany. It was ‘hello, love!’ and ‘Come in, love!’ We thought, what’s going on here?” They would support Roxy Music while in London, one of the first UK groups whose sound was affected by the German influence.’ — The Quietus

 

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Matching Mole Marchides (1972)
‘Matching Mole was the first band formed by Robert Wyatt after the seminal Soft Machine experience. An incredibly tight unit featuring Phil Miller (Hatfield and the North) on guitar, Dave McRae (Nucleus) on keyboards, Bill McCormick (Quiet Sun, 801) on bass and Wyatt himself on drums and vocals. Released in 1971 Little Red Record was Mole’s second album. It was produced by Robert Fripp and it features a cameo appearance by Brian Eno. Compared to their previous work, Red Record goes way far beyond the limits of Rock and Jazz. Even if mostly instrumental the album includes “Gloria Gloom” a magnificent song and one of the very first Wyatt’s critical reflections on Music and Socialism.’ — Rough Trade

 

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Premiata Forneria Marconi The Mountain (1972)
‘Italy’s leading progressive rock outfit of the early ’70s, PFM would have remained a purely Italian phenomenon had they not been signed to Emerson, Lake & Palmer’s Manticore label. Their sound was more distinctly rooted in the pre-classical era than that of their Germanic counterparts. In addition to electric keyboards (synthesizers, etc.), they also relied on violin and flute (recorder, actually) as major components of their music. Their name, by the way, was short for Premiata Forneria Marconi, the name of the bakery that originally sponsored them.’ — Bruce Eder

 

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King Crimson Larks’ Tongues in Aspic (1973)
Larks’ Tongues in Aspic is a key album in the band’s evolution, because it boldly steps away from a formula that was working well and took a risk by incorporating free jazz improvisations, Eastern European classical influence, and proto-metal harshness. Fripp asked Sinfield (lyrics, lighting, and synthesizers) to leave after Islands, who conceded as Fripp’s harsh and dramatic approach was not congruent with Sinfield’s brand of textural jazz-folk. The rest of the band took Sinfield’s side and left Fripp to pull an all-new lineup together. The effort would prove fateful, and Fripp gathered a group of musicians who were uniquely capable of delivering on the mysterious and experimental inclinations he had for the project.’ — Jessie Browne

 

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Fantasy Circus (1973)
‘Fantasy’s “Paint a Picture” is an example of prototypical progressive rock that appears to be as influenced by The Moody Blues as by King Crimson. In this way, Fantasy compares to Spring, Gracious and Cressida. The band’s original guitarist had died accidentally before this was made and subsequently the lyrics reflect issues of loss, madness and an overall questioning of existence.’ — Fantasy Blog

 

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Magma Mëkanïk Dëstruktïẁ Kömmandöh (1973)
Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh introduces an unrealized song cycle of epic proportions titled “Theusz Hamtaahk” (trans: Time of Hatred) which would have explained the eons between initial contact and universal enlightenment over the course of nine albums. Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh is the final movement of the “Theusz Hamtaahk” and depicts the humanities’ liberation from the mortal coil through commune with the supreme entity Kreuhn Kohrman. After the first four albums the story of Kobaïa becomes nebulous, veering away from the fictitious timeline and into conceptual parables that vary in theme. Of course, none of this can be garnered from the lyrics, which explode from the chorus in the Wagnerian violence of Kobaïan. One must pick through the French liner notes for clues as to the album’s explication, but clearly the intent of Magma front man Christian Vander was to avoid concrete artifice and nourish the cosmic mysteries of the ’70s.’ — Tiny Mix Tapes

 

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Todd Rundgren In and Out the Chakras We Go (1974)
‘Having aborted the ill-fated Utopia Mark I at the beginning of May 1973, Todd Rundgren had reverted to his increasingly lucrative alternative career as a record producer. By July, he was back in New York City, continuing his research with psychedelics and imagining his next solo album. Working well into August, Rundgren padded around Secret Sound, laying down the initial tracks that would become the Todd album. While his earlier psychedelic prog explorations had taken him all over the map on A Wizard, A True Star (1973), he had by now developed something approaching a personal cosmology. For Rundgren, hallucinogenics were not about mere escapism; he needed his trips to be taking him somewhere.’ — Paul Myers

 

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Gentle Giant So Sincere (1974)
‘Gentle Giant was a progressive rock band that was active for about a decade (1970 to 1980). The band’s signature was complex and sophisticated musical compositions that blended elements of rock, folk, soul, jazz and classical music. Somewhat closer in spirit to Yes and King Crimson than to Emerson, Lake & Palmer or the Nice, their unique sound melded hard rock and classical music, with an almost medieval approach to singing. The band was not commercially successful and achieved most of their success through a cult following by their fans.’ — allmusic

 

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Henry Cow Ruins (1974)
‘British progressive pioneers Henry Cow (who actually didn’t take their name from early Twentieth-Century American composer Henry Cowell) gave birth to a whole school of bands whose uncompromisingly anti-commercial musical stance had less to do with punk’s DIY ethic than with Theodore Adorno’s argument that radical ideas require radical forms of expression. Like Robert Wyatt, the members of Henry Cow were openly communist, but they partook of a somewhat academic, insular communism, whereby mainstream bourgeois culture – perceived as an essential foundation for unfair economic practices – comes under attack despite the potential such a strategy has for alienating those in the lower and middle classes who enjoy this same culture being rejected. As so often occurs with self-conscious experimentalists, Henry Cow’s version of radical music-making placed them in the vanguard not of the culture at large but of a vibrant artistic sub-culture.’ — Matthew Martens

 

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Magical Power Mako Silk Road (1975)
‘From what little I can gather from my own research, Magical Power Mako is a trio with a reputation as something like the Yo-Yo Ma of experimental Japanese rock, and this album is a legendary touchstone of the scene, released during the ’70s. The sound starts from a template of basic Japanese folk, and then proceeds to wildly pilfer from every Asian influence one can imagine — there are Indian sitars, Turkish mandolins, and a distinctly Silk Road-ish sound (showcased most prominently on the song “Silk Road”). Add danceable rock rhythms, layer on a heavy dose of swirling psychedelic effects, and Super Record produces a lush, dense, relentlessly creative sound.’ — Pop Matters

 

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p.s. RIP D.A. Pennebaker. ** David Ehrenstein, Hi. Everyone, Mr. Ehrenstein announces to anyone interested in buying stuff from his ongoing ‘yard’ sale that, and I quote, ‘I have some Godard on sale including “Sauve Qui Pet (la vie)”. ** Misanthrope, That isn’t surprising but I don’t know if it’s sad. Nothing’s assigned, you know? Sounds like you had a nice, chill weekend in mind. Hope it followed suit. I always think things are going to be all right. And so far, one way or another, that’s always been true. Not that I don’t stress heavily that I’m wrong, of course. Awfully good news that your cloud has dissipated. ** NLK, Hey, man, good to see you! Yeah, he’s beyond. You know, my favorite of his is actually the 3D film ‘Goodbye to Language’. When I saw that it just blew my head off and made a ton of new ideas sprout up in a way that hadn’t happened with me re: a film in a very long time. Thanks a lot for sharing the excitement. Me too. ** Steve Erickson, Agree totally with you re: Godard. The Quietus! Fantastic! That’s a site I look at all the time. Wow, cool, hoping that happens easily. Let me/us know. Hm. Everyone, If the person who mentioned here a while back that they were writing a novel set in late ’70s New York sees this, go back to yesterday’s comments and check Steve Erickson’s slot. I wish I’d thought of Art Zoyd when I was making the gig today. ** Bill, Hi. ‘Lear’s’ a wild one. I can’t remember if I made it all the way through or not. Wow, that was eventful. Very cool. How did the gig and talk go? Lucky them. Yeah, are the protests hugely affecting your stay? From the news, it seems like they must be, but then based on the international news coverage of the Yellow Vest protests, outsiders might have thought I was living in a total war zone rather than a relatively normal seeming Paris with a hampered metro system. ** _Black_Acrylic, I also really hope on your behalf that this coming season is the dream one. ** Jeff J, Hi, Jeff. Thanks a bunch. Fave 80s/90s Godard? Hm, ‘Passion’, ‘Hail Mary’, ‘Germany Year 90 Nine Zero’, and, of course, ‘Histoire(s) du cinéma’ off the top of my head. I know of ‘Temple of Mirrors’, but I have never seen it, never met anyone who’s read or owns it, and even Gisele, who’s a giant R-G collector, says she’s never laid eyes on it. Curious, no? It’s so often the script that’s the fatal flaw. The crappiness of scripts in even otherwise really interesting films is a total bee in my bonnet. Hm, I’ll try to check out ‘The Mountain’ or taste it at least. Thanks, buddy. ** Corey Heiferman, Hi. I remember when I first started writing seriously, a teacher said not to ever compare whatever I did to Shakespeare because she thought that kind of thinking killed more aspiring writers than any other factor. Kind of the same with Godard. If I let myself think too much about Godard’s insane genius, it would be very hard to make films with the necessary ambition and hope. So, yeah. Prototype Press does look interesting. I know of it. And they do publish some quite fine writers in my opinion: Anselm Berrigan, Crispin Best, Gabby Bess, Anne Carson, Don Lee Choi, Guyotat, Rosemary Waldrop, … I could go on and on. Good company. Definitely seems very worth approaching. ** Okay. I decided to go back and comb through prog and proto-prog, a genre I used to dig when I quite young but haven’t had much of any use for since, and see what I thought was interesting and might stand up at this point. All with the advice of my friend Lee Ray. And that up there is what landed here. See you tomorrow.

h presents … Introduction to Alain Robbe-Grillet’s Why I Love Barthes (1978) *

* (restored)

 

This is a precious little book to understand Roland Barthes and modern writings that happened in the cases of Roland Barthes and Alain Robbe-Grillet. The small volume of this book may cause people to underrate the quality of this book. But I went through many Barthes’s own books before I get to this, and delightfully learned various “theoretic” sides of Barthes’s work in this, more personable, but still finely trimmed, likable languages, while passing through hazy subjects such as memory, seed-bed of tics, cautiousness, contradictory personicity in/against the text, etc. One essay, ‘Why I love Barthes'(1978) is written in the form of cordial dialogue between Robbe-Grillet and Barthes, and the book, followingly, presents other essays on Barthes, (Roland Barthes’s Choice, 1981, Yet Another Roland Barthes, 1995, and I like, I Don’t Like, 1980) in Robbe-Grillet’s own appreciation and tangential, albeit heart-learnt, adoption of Barthes’s personcity in his writing. A trial in this book is to distance a literary friendship from a real friendship between them, and instead, to focus on the text in their lovingly drifting dialogue and their own writings, “Barthes” and “Robbe-Grillet,” both as novelists via the text-slippages and the text-persons. I found it an excellent book for an advanced reader of Roland Barthes, in the textual-proximity from his diligent and amorous reader, Robbe-Grillet, not to mention, discovering its value to approach a friendship of Barthes and Robbe-Grillet, understanding what a literary friendship would be like. Also, Robbe-Grillet’s own essays display the emotions and the sentiments of the modern writer, in his attachments to small thingness such as the object-text, and catalogues of liking & disliking of them, in addition to the writer “Roland Barthes.” A great, little book for theoretic learning on writing and im/personal pleasure and felicity[bonheur], for modern melancholics, in detour of two writers, Roland Barthes and Alain Robbe-Grillet.

(HyeMin)

 

Four pages from my scrapbook of Why I love Barthes (1978)

 

My highlighted, four pages of my scrapbook from Why I love Barthes (1978)

1. A dialogue, an exchange between Barthes and myself, on a certain number of points that are close to my heart, though they’re still very vague in my head
2. The subject: “Why do I love Barthes?”
3. By “Barthes” → Roland Barthes’s Work
4. I still learn texts by heart, as an exercise.
I enjoy doing this.
Whenever I recite a text, generally, in bath, I have the sense that I’m caught up in a much less absent-minded, much more intimate contact, because I can read it absent-mindedly but I can’t easily recite it absent-mindedly. And it’s a much more intimate contact because, when I analyze it, I always feel that I’m eliminating the text.
5. The word “Barthes,” –→ The writer “Barthes”
6. There is, so to speak, not an identity between this person and his text, but on the contrary, a tense, contradictory relationship.
—- “Barthes” *in* the text/ *against* the text
7. Barthes forms the person text that in my view is very close, for instance, to Flaubert.

[I love]
8. In what I’ve just been saying there, already, appears, a certain nuance to the words, “I love”
My relationship to this work-personage, this text-persons, this text-body, a relationship of novelist to novelist —-defines a certain type of amorous relationship of emotional contact.
[Why]

9 . Everything I’ve just said goes against the notion of “Because”

I feel the intense need to replace it by the idea of “how.”

10. How does it feel when one of his texts is going round in my head?

How do I live with that text?
How do I live with that text?

[Dialogue]
11. Roland Barthes —- …. His stupidities
12. Alain Robbe-Grillet —- If you want to say something now, Roland, interrupt me straightaway.
Roland, interrupt me straightaway. I love being interrupted. Especially, when I’ve rather lost track of what I’m saying.
13. Roland Barthes —- I ‘m not disagreeing. I am drifting.
      Alain Robbe-Grillet —-

14. Roland Barthes —- I don’t know a single text by heart. And I will go so far as to say (quite obviously) not even any of my own.

15. Amnesia : Montaigne defined himself as outside memory, eluding memory
Amnesia: Montaigne defined himself as outside memory, eluding memory

16. I invented an allegory; I told himself that, arriving here, we’d crossed a Normandy river called the river Memory and that, instead of this place being called Cerisy-la-Salle, it was called Haze-over-Memory. In fact, my amnesia has a character that isn’t brutally negative. My memory lets me down, it’s a haze. I live in a sort of hazy mist, in the impression that I’m always having to struggle with my memory. It’s an idea that would have consequences for writing, writing could be the field of memory’s haze, and memory’s haze, this imperfect memory that’s also an imperfect amnesia, is basically the field of thematics; a theme is something, that’s a both forgotten and not forgotten, and so can’t be captured by structural procedures, precisely because it’s a phenomenon of intensity, or ‘more’ or ‘less.’
17. I’ll drift off at another tangent, this time more of a question: the presence of the body in my text; Jacques-Alain Miller has mentioned it. I don’t think my body is present in my text. I mean that it’s a mystery. I don’t think, for instance, that my bodily drives run through my text.
18. Alain R-G—- your body, for you, but I was talking about your body for me…Obviously, everything I said just now is something you can’t endorse, since, after all, you’re the other…
19. Roland B—- You’re allowing me to have a body for myself.
20. Roland B—-I read a novel that I like, I want to do the same thing, but I seem to have resisted, up until now, certain operations that are supposedly inherent in the novel. For example, the smooth surface, the continuum. Could a novel be written in aphorisms, in fragments? In what conditions? Isn’t the very essence of the novel a certain continuum? I think there’s a resistance here. The second resistance seems to be the relationship to names, to proper names, I don’t know, I wouldn’t be able to invent proper names and I really think that the whole novel resides in proper names —- the novel the way I read it, of course, and I’ve said as much in regard to Proust. For the time being, I feel a resistance to inventing names, at the same time that I really want to invent some. Perhaps I’ll write a novel the day I invent the proper names for that novel. I’ve long thought that there was a third resistance, having to use the word ‘he’, the ‘he’ of the novel, the third-person character; but I’ve started to adapt to this difficulty somewhat by mixing ‘I’ and ‘he’ in Roland Barthes by Roland Barthes. As for the relationship between the figure of the thinker and the figure of the novelist. We ought to take another look at the case of Sartre, who has inevitably made a name for himself as a major ‘thinker’ and yet has written novels: but he’s not viewed as a real novelist.
21. Alain R-G —- but a modern novelist, the one who refuses to accept the established order of the novel, the rules of its game, in other words its characters with their names, etc. …The problem of the name has been settled for a long time: I myself wrote a novel where there isn’t a single proper name, in the Labyrinth. Ah, actually yes, there is a proper name: Henry Martin, who appears in the last pages and has no relationship with the book. It’s perfectly possible to write a novelistic text without a proper name.
22. Alain R-G—- Ah, right. So let me try to explain what I mean by novelist: how, for me, the structure of development of an adventure in a novel relates to the structure of development of a conceptual adventure of thought. This, I think, is the difference between trembling and slipping. Just now I conceded that conceptual thought could tremble, but tremble around a fixed axis; in other words it needs a core of solid meaning that will stop it getting runny, like a Camembert.
The structure of a slippage, on the other hand, is totally different; it never stops abandoning positions that it pretends to have won. From Barthes’s first texts, which I found immensely inspiring, for instance the start of Writing Degree Zero, which I could still recite today, I noticed these slippages. In particular, in the rhetorical shape of these fragments of discourse linked together by “in other words,” which means that, “in short,” etc.
You start out from something firm. We know that a language is a corpus of prescriptions and habits common to all the writers of a period’ (that’s clear, that’s how it is), and it immediately starts to slip: which means that a language is a kind of natural ambience wholly pervading the writer’s expression, yet without endowing it with form or content. This is already a kind of swindle since, in reality, it-does not mean that at all. It’s an idea that’s slipped, and it’s going to keep slipping, from metaphor to metaphor. As a result, in a single page, you won’t have found your footing but lost it:
the swimmer who thinks he’s in shallow waters so he can touch bottom will instead have gradually lost his footing completely, even losing the very notion of footing since he now sees himself floating out in the open sea. From the end of the first page, I’m floating, and if I do hang on to any firm idea that would be, for me, the essence of the text. No, that text can’t be separated out, in Sartre’s terms, into a content and a form, I can’t find anything in it apart from its form, it has no content other than this kind of slippage that has occurred. And this strikes me as characteristic.
Florence Auriacombe —- starting from this distinction between trembling and slipping, I am reminded of the theme that’s been referred to, the contrast between aphorism and fragment.
23. The Barthesian fragment is always slipping and its meaning lies not in the bits of content that may appear here and there but instead in the very fact of slipping. ‘Barthesian thought’ (in quotes, since I put thinkers in a different category) lies in slipping and not at all in the elements between which the thought has slipped.
‘Of course not, he didn’t say anything, he kept slipping from one fleeting meaning to another equally fleeting meaning.’ And it was precisely in this very movement of slippage tat resided the functioning of the text, the pleasure I’d taken in listening to it and, for that reason, its importance.
24. Barthes as a modern novelist.
Modern Novel? —- simply presents fragments which, to crown it all, always describe the same thing – a thing which is almost nothing. But the movement of literature is this slippage from one scene to the same scene that repeats itself, in a form that’s barely diverted, barely converted, barely inverted… I can sense that you don’t agree.
25. Roland B —- I do agree, but you’re the modern novelist.
26. Alain R-G —- I was convinced that Barthes hadn’t said anything about me, but quite the opposite, that he was starting to talk to himself, not rigorously, since that would contradict everything. I’ve just said, but in a free floating way, and that the novelist Barthes was already starting to develop in his texts.
27. Roland B —-you develop your argument in order to set out metaphors, in other words felicitous expressions, in yet other words, as Blanchot puts it, expressions as various kinds of felicity[bonheur]. You set out the expression as something felicitous and that is enshrined in all the “in other words,” ‘which means that’ etc. On the level of these little operators of discourse, we could take the investigation much further, in one sense. They’re merely linguistic tics.
28. Roland B —- What is the relationship between the linguistic tic and the operator of discourse?
We ought to mention a type of writing that never gets discussed, but that had a great importance for me as a seed-bed of these tics [insémination de tics] —- Michelet’s writing.
……Michelet’s writing had a profound impact on me, it was a seed-bed—- in good ways, and ad, it has to be said. There are a lot of tics in Michelet, too. Actually, it’s the book of mine which people least talk about and which I can tolerate best.
29. Alain R-G —- (Roland Barthes’s cautiousness[prudence])
“Oh dear, he’s really not taking any risks here, he’s got himself covered on all sides, and, yet again, he’s sheltered from attack

 

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My favorite images of Roland Barthes, the images of his work-space too

 

 

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p.s. Hey. ** David Ehrenstein, Hi. Wong Kar-Wai is currently working on a new film billed as a sequel to ‘In the Mood for Love’ for better or worse. Everyone, Mr. E’s new FaBlog entry aka ‘Little Ms.Magical Thinking’ has it in for Marianne Williamson. Find out how. ** Bill Hi. ‘Gust’ is such a nice word. Yeah, I was surprised I hadn’t done a post on him before too. My favorite is ‘Fallen Angels’, but I pretty much like all of them through ‘Happy Together’ quite a bit. I haven’t seen the director’s cut or whatever of ‘The Grandmaster’, but I found the release version so disheartening that I switched it off pretty early on. ** Sypha, Perhaps that’s a sign for you to get familiar. ‘Popism’ is a lot of fun, yeah, I agree. Did not know Jung was an artist. Curious, that. I’ll hunt some. ** Steve Erickson, Hi. To me the slippage is already happening in ‘In the Mood for Love’, although it’s certainly much better than the films that followed. I actually reviewed ‘ItMfL’ for Artforum at the time, but I see the review is not online. I’m with you on wishing he would find his energised, spontaneous side again, but I suspect that’s a pipe dream. Everyone, Mr. Erickson has reviewed ‘The Babadook’ director Jennifer Kent’s new film ‘The Nightingale’ here. ** _Black_Acrylic, Congrats on finishing the story and high hopes that the editor knows what’s good for her. Yes, I’ve followed your song challenge picks on FB. Very enlightening. Everyone, the mighty _Black_Acrylic has a hot offer for you. In his words, ‘Dunno if you’re aware of a thing on social media called the 30 Day Song Challenge? I did it as a break from all the constant Brexit opinion on my feed, and in a world of constant trolling and abuse I found it to be a welcome spot of fun. Here is my list in the form of a Twitter thread and maybe you’ll find something you like.’ ** Jeff J, Hi, Jeff. Yeah, really great talk with you! ‘Fallen Angels’ is my fave of his. High five. On the one hand, it seems too simple to decide his break from Christopher Doyle was his downfall, but, on the other hand, that would explain it, wouldn’t it? As you probably know, Doyle quit ‘In the Mood for Love’ part way through, and the film is a visual Frankenstein of bonafide Doyle style and faked Doyle to make the film hang together. There is that problem that happens when directors start to take themselves too seriously, and I do think that could have happened with him. Like you, I thought there were nice things in ‘2046’, but I more thought it had the same problems of ‘ItMfL’ on a bigger and more fatal level. Like I told someone above, I couldn’t make it through ‘The Grandmaster’. ** Misanthrope, Thanks. Chill weekend sounds mighty good. I want a de-chilled weekend. Well, de-chilled me-wise not de-chilled weather wise. Compare notes? ** Okay. Today I am restoring a great and visually exciting post made for prior version of here and for everyone then and now by the excellent writer and scholar and d.l. h. Enjoy the heck out of it. See you tomorrow.

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