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Bill Hsu presents … early 80s/90s San Francisco post/ art/ punk/ noise *

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Among long-time San Franciscans, there’s a lot of nostalgia for the 80s to early 90s: rent was cheap, things were falling apart, and every block seemed to have a crazy gallery (like the legendary Kiki), colorful cafes to hang out at (like the late lamented Bearded Lady), performance spaces hosting insane splatter projects (by the likes of the Sick and Twisted Players), or wacky band. This was also a city in the throes of the AIDS epidemic (protease inhibitors weren’t available till well into the 90s), dealing with the effects of the Loma Pieta earthquake, with regular ACTUP/Queer Nation actions and massive protests against the first Gulf War. It didn’t look like things would get better any time soon, but people made and did beautiful things, and partied.

Simon Reynolds, in his essential book on post-punk, Rip It Up and Start Again, devotes an excellent chapter to the San Francisco (freak) scene. I’m a big fan of the better known bands (Tuxedomoon, Residents, Chrome, etc), but there are some poorly documented groups that made some fine music, that’s finally showing up online. Here are a few that I’ve enjoyed.

 

Minimal Man

Discogs page
Myspace
Wikipedia entry

 

Formed by leader Patrick Miller when he moved to San Francisco in the late 70s, Minimal Man made some fine noise rock in its early days. (Later songs can sound somewhat like Gary Numan.)

 

 

 

Trial

Discogs page
Sean Reveron’s appreciation

 

I never caught Trial live; their shows were supposed to be real events. The thick tribal percussion and guitars remind me of a more political Crash Worship.

 

 

 

Glorious Din

Discogs page
Some articles and miscellaneous info

 

Probably one of the more straight ahead postpunk bands in this post, kind of Joy Division meets shoe gaze, more angular and with hazier guitars. Very tasteful.

 

 

 

Stickdog

Facebook page
Discogs page

 

Stickdog actually started in Iowa (sounds like there was quite an Iowa-Bay area exodus in the 80s), but moved to San Francisco after releasing their 2nd lp on SF’s Alternative Tentacles label. Love the thick dark guitar sound, and metallic percussion.

 

 

 

Tragic Mulatto

Wikipedia page
Discogs page

 

One of those short-lived Bay area legends, with a big sludgy spastic sound (often compared to Butthole Surfers), horn section, Flatula Lee Roth’s operatic wailing and outrageous chaos onstage.

This was probably their (ahem) hit:

 

 

Live:

 

 

Beatnigs

Beatnigs wikipedia page

 

Beatnigs was of course Michael Franti and Rono Tse’s band, before Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy and Spearhead. I remember a really electric live gig with a stripped down lineup at the late lamented I-Beam; unfortunately the youtube live clips mostly have terrible sound quality.

 

 

 

Mudwimmin

Discogs page

 

After Tragic Mulatto, Bambi Nonymous re-emerged as Mudwimmin’s drummer. Their early 90s gigs were always a glorious explosion of noise and burlesque, with their thick viscous sound, odd arrangements, and on-stage antics. This gives an idea:

 

 

Luckily they actually recorded a couple albums before disappearing.

 

 

Ovarian Trolley

Discogs page
Trouser Press page with snarky Ira Robbins text

 

Ovarian Trolley slipped in at the tail end of this time window, anchored by the Hall sisters on drums and vocals, and Buck Bito on guitar. Ira Robbins hates their stringent, cutting sound; I love it.

They haven’t performed regularly in decades. But they can still play:

 

 

 

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p.s. Hey. ** PL, Hi. I think MJ’s saint days in the US are behind him at this point. Maybe 50% are still high on him at most? I like what I know of Clams Casino, but I don’t have that album, so I’ll get it, thanks! A long time ago, there was a regular commenter on the blog who made up a fake other identity for a while. In that case, it was obnoxious because the fake person was supposedly young and suicidal and asking for help and stuff. Someone from here found out what was going on, and I confronted the commenter and told them to never, ever do that again. But months later, they did the same thing again, and then I told them never to come back here. I’m big on trust, and if someone betrays my trust, I sort of have to totally distance myself from them. Other than that, the fake commenters have mostly been kind of amusing and obviously made up. You know, I’ve never read The Bible. Not even a word. Weird, no? So that stuff is really foreign to me. You should make that animated film. I’m already really interested. And in your take on animals. That’s super interesting. I like animals, especially birds for some reason. Pigeons live near my apartment windows, and I study them a lot when I’m smoking at my smoking window. I was surprised at how complex their social lives are. Hm, I don’t think I have any wild animal encounter stories. A shark chased me in Hawaii once. That was scary. Otherwise, whenever I’ve seen wild animals it’s always been kind of a chill, polite encounter. Have you had intense one-on-ones with wild animals? Awesome talking with you too. ** Dominik, Hi!!! I like trying to come up with the perfect title, but I think it would be hard with clowns. The problem is I watched a couple of pet rescue videos on Facebook, and Facebook decided I must like them, and so now I get tons of them in my feed all the time. I’m trying not to watch them so Facebook will unlearn that interest of mine and leave me alone. Ha ha, love has the best rocks, no doubt. Love disappearing my disappointment that our film didn’t get accepted at Cannes, even though I saw that rejection coming from miles away, G. ** ellie, Hi! Cool, I look forward to it! I’m assuming the complicatedness in your life isn’t the good kind, so I hope that passes. My life’s a bit complicated too at the moment, but it’ll simplify soon, I think. Take care. Excited! xo. ** _Black_Acrylic, I never got into Primal Scream. Well, except their very first single ‘Velocity Girl’ when they didn’t sound anything what they soon became. ** Tosh Berman, So cool you were on those sets. I visited the set of ‘I Love Lucy’ when I was a kid because my aunt was friends with Lucille Ball. I hung out on the sets of the ‘Hardy Boys’ TV show in the early 70s because my friend was one of its stars. My new book is really short and skinny, so it won’t take up too much space. ** Charalampos, Oh, okay. I don’t have any Kylie albums either. I think the Gacy/Corll theories are total made up fantasy crap. But more power to the dreamers, I guess. High five from 75008. ** Misanthrope, Glad you dug it. I think David needs to try the cafe allonge with double espresso chaser combo, and then we’ll see who’s the bigger maniac. ** Justin, Hi, Justin! Happy you liked that piece. When I’m not creating something, I literally don’t what to do with myself. I’m trying to imagine listening to ‘I Wished’ while playing a video game, and I can’t, but I like the idea. I’ve never listened to the audible version. I wanted them to let me read it, and they wouldn’t, and that kind of pissed me off. The fake commenters: most of then were just for fun and self-entertainment and general entertainment too, I guess. The one fucked up one, which I described above, was for … well, I don’t know why they did that. Wanting attention and wanting to mess with people, I guess. Another commenter found out that the fake commenter was fake, I don’t remember how, and he told me. I didn’t confront the perpetrator here on the blog because I didn’t want to start some big controversy that would be taxing and exhausting to deal with, so I told them to stop privately. It really pissed me off because … I don’t know if you know the whole JT Leroy thing where I and a lot of people were duped by a fake supposedly dying boy/writer, but the fake commenter thing here was totally exploiting the fact that I had fallen for a similar prank, and I thought that was evil because the JT Leroy thing was really ugly. So, yeah. Thanks, I’m very happy you liked Zac’s and my films. No, the Adam Lanza photo was a decision made when shooting the film. Zac had it on his wall, and we just decided to use it. It’s such an amazing photo. Zac was really fascinated by Lanza, may still be. Great idea: the film based on/inspired by Lanza. My advice would be to not worry whatsoever about possible sentimentality and just write exactly what he inspires you to write. I’m a big proponent of what you can do in revision and editing later, so I would just write freely and then see later if you think it’s too sentimental towards him, and then excise that if you want to, My suspicion is that what you write won’t be as sentimental as you fear. The death metal track in ‘PGL’ is ‘Permanent Funeral’ by the band Pig Destroyer. Bon day! ** Darby 🐗🪓🏃‍♂️, Ha ha, that emoji sequence honors my boar experience. Although, technically, I was armed with a bow and arrow. Congrats on the roommating of your cat. Give them a scrunch for me. Huh, it is kinda of like alchemy. Its effect is certainly magical. Ha ha, no, none of the pigeons around me do that. Wow, that’s amazing. I wish I could teach them that skill. What a beautiful gif. I stole it. I’m going to use it in something. Speaking of rocks, you rock. ** Steve, I saw a preview for ‘Civil War’ before the ‘Godzilla x Kong’ viewing the other day. I thought it would be more stylish. It just looks like a ‘meaning’-packed disaster movie. No, I know nothing about that ‘HB’-like TV series, no. How curious. The perspective of someone who’s outside of something, say ‘Bollywood’, seems just as valuable as insider’s perspective, isn’t it? ** Harper, Hey, H. I’ve never read ‘Vineland’, maybe because of its initial meh reaction. Hm, I’m going to rectify that absence. Let me know what you think. I read ‘Gravity’s Rainbow’ when I was sixteen, and it seriously blew my mind, as you can imagine. Even though I had already read lots of experimental fiction by then. Your description of it is crazy great! I also read that Richard Farina novel in my mid-teens. I always forget about it. I liked it. I remember thinking it was a lot better than ‘On the Road’, which everybody was reading at the time. I still have a Richard and Mimi Farina album somewhere. My next cigarette will be like the champagne bottle that christens a cruise ship, and you’ll be the cruise ship, and not the Titanic, I promise. ** Joseph, Hi, Joseph! Good to see you, bud. I’ve never thought about it before, but I think I would really like to have a deep conversation with someone who passionately loves rocks, or interview them maybe. I’m glad you liked the Kitchen book. Yeah, really fresh, right? A happy discovery. Cool, take it easy. ** Nika Mavrody, I put ‘rock’ + ‘contemporary art’ into the google search window, and then I hunted what came up with an eagle eye. ** Uday, Oops, my fucking eccentric blog. Goodness. Please thank your subconscious for casting me in your dream in such a meaty role. I’m chuffed. I really like doing events at colleges. I’ve had the most interesting conversations with the most interesting people there. So, yeah, I would be cool with an invitation. Gosh, thank you. Mm, I don’t think I collected rocks. I boringly collected stamps for a while. I collected Pez dispensers for a while. I collected rare records, but I usually ended up reselling them for $$. My friend Kevin Killian used to collect stray pubic hairs he found in public bathrooms. Did or do you collect things? Much love back, me. ** Right. Today you get a restoration of an old post by the honorable Bill Hsu that guides you through the wonders of San Francisco-based post/ art/ punk/ noise music of the 80s/90s, and it’s educational treat. So, throw caution to the wind. See you tomorrow.

Rocks

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Marcelo Moscheta Anti-Gravitational Magnetic Pole, 2009
62 photographs on transparency film, aluminum boxes, LEDs lamps, wires and electrical components, PVC, plexiglass, iron and steel wires

 

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u/ibm untitled, 2022
sdxl

 

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Lee Ufan Relatum – Silence, 2014
steel, stone

 

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Olivia Moore and Richard Yanas Rock Hard / Soft Rock, 2011
‘Yanas’ unaltered and digitally manipulated photographs both inform and confuse, causing the viewer to call into question the authenticity of every image. Like Yanas, Moore plays with fact and fiction through the reproduction of objects, which reference the landscape.’

 

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Jim Hodges Untitled, 2011
Hodges sheathed four granite boulders in lacquered stainless steel

 

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Olafur Eliasson HALF A ROCK (THE OTHER HALF WAS GIVEN TO THE STONE CUTTER FOR CUTTING THE STONE), 2009
dolerite

 

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Abraham Poincheval Pierre, 2017
‘A French artist emerged from a week entombed inside a 12-tonne rock Wednesday and said he was “a little stunned” by the experience. Abraham Poincheval, 44, had difficulty walking as he was helped from the stone onto a chair before being taken away for a medical examination.

‘His extreme performance in a Paris art museum has become something of a sensation in the French capital, with crowds thronging the Palais de Tokyo to watch him inside through an infra-red camera. Hundreds have tried to talk to him through a crack in the rock, with the artist telling AFP that some had read him poetry, played guitar or told him about their dreams and nightmares.

‘Poincheval, who previously spent a fortnight sewn-up inside a stuffed bear, had earlier told AFP through a crack in the limestone boulder that his confinement had been “like tripping”. “I am travelling in this rock without moving, like an astronaut,” he said, buoyed up by the fact that he had “got into people’s heads”.

‘Poincheval carved out a hole inside the rock in his own image, just big enough for him to sit up in, with a niche to hold supplies of water, soup and dried meat. Dubbed France’s most extreme artist, he will attempt to become a human hen later this month and hatch a dozen eggs by sitting on them for weeks on end.’

 

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Anish Kapoor Grave, 2016
Resin and earth

 

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Foteini Palpana If you were written on ice you would be equally indecipherable, 2017
‘The network of crevices on the surface of a rock is viewed by the artist as a cryptogram that can be transcribed, but not necessarily interpreted.’

 

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Huang Yong Ping A football match of June 14 2002, 2002
Fibre de verre, bois et chauve-souris naturalisées

 

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Natalia Turnova The Egg and the Rock, 2021
mixed media

 

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Rebecca Horn Magic Rock, 2005
Special stone from the sea of the Aeolian Islands near Napoli, Mountain rock crystal from Nepal steel, motor, wood platform

 

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Eduardo Basualdo Teori, 2014
mixed media

 

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Luis Camnitzer Somebody’s Fragment, 1969
rock made with papier-mâché on a metallic structure, chord and written document with the caption “Somebody’s fragment”

 

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Anna Borgman and Candy Lenk Wurf, 2022
paper maché and wood

 

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Chris Burden Extreme Measures, 2013
boulder, rope

 

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Amy Stephens Something Anything Everything, 2018
‘a feather rock is transported from its natural state relanding in the space’

 

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Ken Kelleher Union, 2020
stainless steel

 

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Romain Langlois Untitled, 2021
‘Langlois uses bronze to pull boulders apart.’

 

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Michael Heizer Levitated Mass, 2012
‘A giant boulder moved from a quarry in Riverside to the Los Angeles County Museum of Art over the period of ten nights in 2012.’

 

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Matthijs Kok Stone Foam Stool, 2015
‘A stool with a hard look, which is unexpectedly soft.’

 

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Urs Fischer Untitled, 1993
‘One can always rely on Urs Fischer for a mound.’

 

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Katharina Grosse Rock, 2005
Rock, acrylic

 

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The Chapuisat Brothers No Place Like Home, 2007
‘Our constructions transform space, turning interior and exterior boundaries inside out and toying with the perception of a subjective reality. They demand visitors’ active participation, putting them into the position of being an explorer.’

 

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David Benjamin Sherry How Could I Have Ever Lost You, 2010
‘I turned a five foot tall boulder into a sculpture that I’d half dreamed about toward the end of a relationship.’

 

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Fernanda de la Huerta Black Rock, 2020
leather, black dye

 

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Zhan Wang Artificial Rock, 2016
stainless steel

 

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Dove Bradshaw Radio Rock, 1998 – 2007
Sculpture, Pyrite embedded igneous rock, gold-tipped cat whisker, radio parts, speakers

 

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Alicja Kwade Silent Matter, 2022
‘Kwade places desk lamps up against the polished volcanic rock to create a luminous depiction of celestial bodies surrounded by the dark vacuum of space.’

 

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Tacita Dean Riesenbett II (floating), 2009
blackboard paint, fibre-based print mounted on paper

 

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Melissa Deerskin Rock’s Eye View, 2013
Fake rock, television

 

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Brad Evan Taylor Growing Rock, 2020
Ceramic

 

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Stephane Jaspert Wave, 2007
rock, paint

 

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Romain Laurent Untitled, 2017
loop

 

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Anya Gallaccio forever changes, 2011
Bronze

 

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Giuseppe Penone Pietra di foglie, 2006
stone and laurel leaves

 

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William Tucker Persecutor, 1998
Bronze

 

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Taesoo Lee Mademoiselle S, 2006
Chair, boulder, platform

 

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Rowena Brown SET OF FOUR HOUSES ON ROCKS, 2019
Stoneware, hand-built architectural form, coloured with slips, part-glazed

 

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Sun Yuan & Peng Yu Teenager Teenager, 2011
simulation of sculpture, sofa, simulation of stone

 

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Victor unrefined work, 2015
gif

 

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Matthew Simmonds Byzantium, 2023
‘Stone carver Simmonds uses stone to bring these perfect ruins to life, giving them a detailed, elaborate form, that seems however somehow to be growing naturally out of the raw material.’

 

 

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p.s. Hey. ** PL, Indeed, but I should add that all the other bus passengers also acted like it was normal and no big deal, so maybe that happened all the time. I do like Sonic Youth, yes. Enjoy. Oh, I feel really hesitant to judge things when I don’t know all the details/facts, but, if I were to guess, I’d say he was probably guilty of doing something in that realm. What do you think? Oh, no, I assumed you are a real entity. There have been a few times in the past when fake people commented on this blog, and I had no clue until it was revealed. I guess I’d rather start off trusting people and end up being fooled rather than starting out suspicious. Your thrill for pop culture is plenty interesting, so carry on if you like. Great talking with you too, iow. ** ellie, Hi, ellie! The film is almost finished, and the book is finished and will come out later this year. How are you? Yes, you can send me that writing. I’m slow, so it will likely take me a bit to read it, but I would definitely like to. Do you have my email? It’s [email protected]. Thanks for wanting to share it with me. ** _Black_Acrylic, In many cases, I think you’re right. It’s sad that the shows live forever, but the locations don’t. Okay, you’re in the pro-‘Ripley’ camp. Good to know. Enjoy it fully. ** Charalampos, Hi. Like I said, basically none of the movie backlots exist anymore, except for Universal’s, and it’s more for tourists to look at than for shooting things these days. I think the photos were all there, or they looked to be from my end. Are those albums you mentioned Charli albums? I only know the singles and certain tracks. Love from here (and there). ** Tosh Berman, Another thumbs up on ‘Ripley’. Gosh, will I actually have to watch it and see for myself? Seems to be getting to that point. Maybe I’ll dip. ** Dominik, Hi!!! ‘The Clown’, prosaic. I’m sure someone has titled their novel ‘The Novel’. Yes, very curious. There must be books or at least essays written about why the Japanese are into faux-submissiveness, if they are. ‘Godzilla x Kong’ has a fun opening action set piece and a fun closing action set piece, and everything else is pretty crap. But fun crap ultimately, I suppose. We saw it in this special presentation where they showed it in some extremely wide format and projected the side areas of the film on the walls of theater, so it was all around you. That was fun. But should you see it? Mm, probably not. Weird, I’m currently going through a kind of embarrassing addiction to abandoned pet rescue videos. Love making popsicles evaporate rather than melt and drip all over your hand, G. ** Matt N., Ah, good old passion, yes. ‘Hollywood Babylon’ is a lot of fun, but caution re: believing most of what it reports. Which is fun too, I guess. Worth a read, yes. You’re going to have so much fun at Madonna’s concert then, great! Report back. Zac and I are talking about the new film now, and we know generally what we want to do, but it’s still too vague to describe, I think. In a few weeks once we starting working on the script, I think we’ll have a clearer idea. Have the best day! ** Bill, 40 Acres is just a bunch of boring warehouses and apartment complexes now, sadly. I will re: ‘First Omen’. I’m not expecting a ton, by any means. But yes. ** Steve, Glad you’re at least a bit better, and hopefully another bit today. The quitting cigarettes thing is definitely a real, physical thing rather than a mental only thing. At least for me, I completely lose my concentration and focus for a long time. Like I couldn’t do the blog if I quit cigarettes. There must be something in nicotine that sharpens the mind or something. I really don’t know, but it’s a real problem, for sure. I’ll hit ‘Von dutch’ first. Too mainstream is obviously not much of a lure for me. But I’ll try. ** Harper, Hi. Stress, yeah, well, I guess that’s … better than it being something requiring a medical repair job? Or, hm, maybe not. Painkillers, gotcha. You didn’t smoke for a month? I’m awful: I’ve had bronchitis twice, and I still didn’t quit even during that. But I got better anyway, and that’s all that matters. I took one hit off a friend’s vape, and I decided, Nope. What are your other fave Pynchons? I remember really liking ‘Against the Day’. ** Corey Heiferman, Ah, yes, I think I went on a jag searching for examples of what you’re talking about, and there are a whole bunch of examples out there gathered by helpful ultra-nerds. I guess I’m taking about people who are widely thought very attractive, and who, when you’re with them, you see and feel the effect of their attractiveness on people in the vicinity. Yeah, if you want to milk the creative juice that unrequited longing creates, you have to strike the keys while the ‘iron’ is hot. Which doesn’t always last that long. ** Okay. How about if you guys give your undivided attention to the lowly rock for the next 24 hours? What do you say? See you tomorrow.

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