The blog of author Dennis Cooper

Month: March 2022 (Page 12 of 14)

Balls

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Nicolás Guagnini from 77 Testicular Imprints, 2007
‘The paintings were produced with oil paint applied directly to the artist’s testicles and imprinted on various bound and ephemeral printed matter including: mainstream magazines such as Time and Life; art market staples such as Artforum, Art in America and Art News; exhibition and auction catalogues; rare magazines and artist’s books; personal letters; and lastly, on an assortment of original artworks, poems and studio notes by Vito Acconci, Simon Bedwell, Alejandro Cesarco, and Dan Graham.’

 

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Morwenna Catt David Cameron Voodoo Testicles, 2014
‘I’m not partisan and I’m happy to ‘voodooize’ any political testicles to order – I’d be particularly keen to ‘set to’ the crown jewels of Nigel farage. Do get in touch if you’re interested!’

 

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Carroll Dunham Composite Image (Testicles), 2003
Watercolor, acrylic and graphite on linen

 

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Dan Gerbo Ball breaker, 2016
Real testicles conserved in formalin

 

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Daniel Bitton Scrote n’ Tote Backpack, 2015
‘Not surprisingly, Daniel Bitton’s photo of himself standing in line for a show wearing a backpack that resembled a giant scrotal sac went viral last year. This led thousands of people (really, thousands) to request one, so Daniel has obliged and created the Scrote n’ Tote. He has launched a crowdfunding campaign to get the proper materials to turn the prototype – which is too heavy and too delicate – into a sturdy and lifelike functioning backpack / knapsack. Once fully funded, he plans on selling the Scrote ‘n’ Tote for $120 USD (plus shipping).’

 

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Piero della Francesca Burial of the Sacred Wood, 1452-1459
fresco

 

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Sam Francis Blue Balls, 1962
Watercolour on paper

 

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Denis Defrancesco King Kong Balls, 2019
‘His majestic approach gives a new spirit to grey streets, feeling as comfortable as in a green garden. King Kong Balls’ exotic look catches every single passerby’s attention. His fascinating expression is the right decoration for large spaces, due to his dimensions and weight.’

 

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Flying Testicle Testicle Rider, 1993
‘Early 90s experimental/noise trio which included Masami Akita (Merzbow), Maso Yamazaki (Masonna) and Zev Asher (Roughage).’

 

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Sue Williams Various, 1997 – 2010
‘In these abstracted images of testosterone stress, Williams’ invention could be called the “scrotal line,” a kind of ragged arabesque that is peculiarly familiar but never before committed to canvas. And that would be, of course, decrepit old-man scrotum, not fresh new baby scrotum. It’s a wow.’


Testicle Flange on the Green, 1997


War of the Testicles, 2010

 

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Bob Flanagan You Always Hurt the One You Love, 1991
‘In You Always Hurt the Ones You Love (1991), Flanagan sings and enacts his personhood at his head, using humour as a device to further contradict the victim/deviant label, while his body is transformed into an object by nailing his penis and testicles to a plank of wood.’

 

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Unknown Tanuki, 1952
‘Ceramic statues of Tanuki are found everywhere in modern Japan, especially outside bars and restaurants, where a pudgy Tanuki effigy typically beckons drinkers and diners to enter and spend generously (a role similar to Maneki Neko, the Beckoning Cat, who stands outside retail establishments.) In his modern form, the fun-loving Tanuki is commonly depicted with a big tummy, a straw hat, a bewildered facial expression (he is easily duped), a giant scrotum, a staff attached to a sake flask, and a promissory note (that he never pays). Many of these attributes suggest his money was wasted on wine, women, and food.’

 

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Martin Creed A sheet of paper crumpled into a testicle, 2003
Crumpled paper in plexiglass on wood pedestal

 

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Graeme Why do guys have really big balls?, 2014
‘Talking about regular XY guys really big balls, with a brief mention of irregular XXY guys really small balls.’

 

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Paweł Althamer Piotr, 2011
‘Portrait subject had his face cast in plaster, selected the metal understructures on which he was mounted, and watched as the sculpture was “fleshed out” with plastic generated by extruding machines that had been transferred from Poland to Germany.’

 

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Ian Mozdzen Obscene, 2007
‘Audiences enter cre8ery studios, a multi-purpose gallery and studio space located in Winnipeg’s historic Exchange District, to witness and respond to the first performance draft of Obscene, a new experimental theatrical work by yours truly. Obscene tells the sordid tale of Michael, a self-castrated eunuch. Armed with dozens of eggs, liters of ketchup, and my shameless perineum, I’ve recreated his psychological landscape, mapping out his epic journey from boyhood to manhood to genital nullification. A shaft of heavenly light penetrates blackness to illuminate a man singing – high, shrill, angelic. “Slash me a cunt, I am in love.” He thrusts a knife between his legs. Blood gushes from the wound and seeps through his white smock. We see a home video of a horse castration. A farmer slices open the animal’s scrotum, pulls out a gleaming testicle, and then swiftly slashes the spermatic cord. The severed testicle is then tossed to the ground and devoured by a hungry dog. The farmer laughs heartily. Michael strips. We catch a glimpse of his mutilated genitals … looking like attempted murder. He slips on a pretty, silky dress and a hideously tangled wig. After taking a swig of whiskey he obscenely applies juicy red lipstick to his lips. He looks like some sort of demented tranny clown. Blood drips down his thighs. He belches bitterly. The bloody genitals are revealed. Michael-Joy, face twisting with pain, forcefully tucks the organs between his legs. Fingers caress the hairy mound remaining. The caress turns into a vulgar jerk-off. Heavenly music soars. An angel glides before our eyes. “Blessed be the blade,” it chimes.’

 

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Petra Mrzyk and Jean-François Moriceau Tattoo, 2017
‘Today’s installment of tattoos the internet is mocking is this one, posted on Twitter by user Gutphobia, with the caption: “idk about y’all but this looks like a nutsack to me.’ We were sure it was a strangely designed heart, so we contacted the tattoos designers Petra Mrzyk and Jean-François Moriceau asking if it was intentionally a ball sack. ‘Yes exactly, it’s a hand caressing a nut sack 🙂 Nothing more,’ Jean-François replied via email. ‘A guy ask me if he can make a tattoo of this drawing and we said OK. But we didn’t see the media storm about this tattoo, I just saw it on a few Instagram account!’’

 

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Bruce Nauman Crime and Punishment (Punch and Judy), 1985
‘For Bruce Nauman drawing is equivalent to thinking.’

 

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Daniel Edwards Tom Cruise Shroud, 2015
‘Artist Daniel Edwards assisted Cory Allen Contemporary Art in St. Petersburg, Fla. to create the unusual likeness of the movie star for a “pop-up Church of Scientology” near the religion’s headquarters in Clearwater. The shroud features Cruise with gigantic testicles and an equally impressive penis with very intricate pubic hair detailing. The artists definitely wanted to paint Cruise’s manhood in a favorable light. In addition to the impressive penis and testicles, the shroud also shows a backside of Cruise that highlights off his butt.’

 

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Philip Guston Untitled (Nixon Drawings), 1971 – 1975
ink on paper

 

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Francesco Vezzoli The Return of Bruce Nauman’s Bouncing Balls, 2006
‘Conceived as an ironic tribute, in The Return of Bruce Nauman’s Bouncing Balls, Vezzoli abandons the conceptual coldness of the original work to present a slick video based on the canons of pornographic filmography starring Brad Rock and his the infamous American gay-porn testicles.’

Watch it here

 

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Senga Nengudi R.S.V.P. Reverie – “B” Suite, 1977
Nylon mesh, sand, and pole

 

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Joel-Peter Witkin Testicle Stretch with the Possibility of a Crushed Face, 1982
Gelatin silver print

 

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Dove Soap Real Beauty Sketches, 2013
‘In a faux documentary short (that turns out to be an ad for one of the world’s biggest soap manufacturers), forensic artist Nancy Smith of the Encino Police Department drew men’s testicles based on the men’s own descriptions and those of others, and the side-by-side comparisons provoke heartfelt and empowering tears from the men who had alternately described their testicles as being “like a bag of old rags,” and “like a frog that died and has been baking in the sun for two or three days.” As one of the men concludes, weeping: “Those balls are angry, and have no friends; and these are alive and have hope.”’

 

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Paul McCarthy Captain Dick Hat, 2003
silicone rubber

 

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Dale Frank Undescended Testicle, 2019
tinted varnish, epoxyglass on Perspex

 

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Pyotr Pavlensky Untitled, 2013
‘Pavlensky walked on to Red Square on Sunday lunchtime, stripped off and nailed his scrotum to the cobblestones of Russia’s most famous public space. Pyotr Pavlensky said the protest was his response to Russia’s descent into a “police state” and was timed to coincide with Police Day. He was taken to hospital an hour later and given basic treatment for his injuries but declined to be admitted. He was later taken to a police station.’

 

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Peter Saul Testicles of a Billionaire, 2009
ink, acrylic and colored pencil on paper

 

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Pipilotti Rist Another Body from the Lobe of the Lung Family, 2009
‘At the far end of the space, the perpendicular walls form a screening space for Another Body from the Lobe of the Lung Family (2009). The segment I view involves a very cute piglet gambolling in a meadow in extreme close-up on one screen and a naked, nubile young woman doing the same on the other, I witness a toddler, around 18 months old, run screaming with joy towards the enormous piglet. At that moment the screens swap. He stops for a minute, looking at the enormous woman, and then resumes his joyous squealing — it’s all the same to him. A little later I notice what I think is a curious sea slug, and then realise it is in fact a bobbing penis and testicles.’

 

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Zhao Zhenhua Testicle-Weightlifting, 2014
‘Chinese master Zhao Zhenhua is seen lifting 80kg of bricks with his testicles during a demonstration in Zhengzhou city, central China’s Henan province. He also swung the weight forth and back about 320 times in 10 minutes. Zhao believes that testicle-weightlifting can improve quality of life.’

 

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Mike Kelley Big ol’farm balls, almos’ bigger than the butt cheeks, 1991
Acrylic on Paper

 

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Unknown Balls Kicks, 2004 – 2018
animated gifs

 

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Flaka Haliti My Balls, 2007-2008
‘“We don’t have successful internationally-known women artists from Kosovo. This shows that they don’t have the balls to become artists and to use the art spaces.” Back in 2007, this was the message told to Flaka Haliti by a person in a position of power in Kosovo’s cultural community. The provoking statement became an invitation to act for the Pristina-born artist. Soon after, she arrived at the opening of a prize exhibition at the National Gallery of Kosovo with a bag of cow testicles, a collection of balls which she proceeded to arrange in a corner of the gallery and present as a gift to exhibition-goers and museum authorities. Haliti’s testicular response, aptly titled “My Balls” (2007-2008), is documented in a short two-channel video.

 

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Yishay Garbasz Becoming, 2010
‘With Becoming, artist Yishay Garbasz courageously explores one of society’s most taboo subjects – the unmaking of a gendered body and the creation of another. Garbasz courageously documents two years of the physical changes she underwent to change from male to female. With unprecedented honesty and directness, the artist photographed her body every week, chronicling its gradual transformation. Becoming’s flip book format makes visible and immediate time and its integral role throughout this process.’

 

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Josiah M. Hesse I Had a Giant Testicle for Two Years and Didn’t Tell Anyone, 2015
‘From the ages of 17 to 19, I believed that God had cursed me with a swollen left testicle that was the size and shape of a large pear. I was suffering from a condition known as hydrocele, which basically meant there was an exceptionally large collection of fluid around my testicle that made it look like I’d put a 100-watt lightbulb down my pants. It was the result of blunt-force trauma—my loving sister thought it was hilarious to kick me in the crotch whenever I was napping. As traumatic as it might seem to be cursed with a grapefruit-sized sperm-machine, hydrocele isn’t life-threatening and can be corrected with a pretty simple surgical procedure. Unfortunately, I told no one about my condition and lived with it for about two years.’

 

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Ingrid Berthon-Moine Marbles, 2013
‘Berthon-Moine takes twelve close-up photographs of testicles belonging to Ancient Greek sculptures. Typically, women’s bodies are exploited and looked at in art while men are not. Here, Berthon-Moine wanted “to look at men…the way they look at women.” A very conscious role reversal takes place. Berthon-Moine makes comparisons of testicles to breasts. She comments that they function the same way under gravity in that they hung to the left side. This challenges male as the ideal. The focus on Ancient Greek relates to its highly masculinist culture. It is an appropriate reference point for Berthon-Moine to draw connections to more recent representations. For male viewers, there is a strong “sense of vulnerability” when perceiving Marbles. It is a feeling typically reserved for the female body. This change in experience is something Berthon-Moine deliberately sets out to achieve. Berthon-Moine questions the system of representation through subversion. She asks what gives men the authority to determine subject matter and representation when they are fundamentally the same.’

 

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Anatomical Travelogue Testis Shower Curtain, 2018
100% polyester fabric

 

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Delain The Gathering, 2014
‘It’s tradition for Delain to launch confetti cannons during their song “The Gathering”. Typically they’ve done this without any incident, but during a show in Birmingham, England last week, bassist Otto Schimmelpenninck found himself taking a shot straight to the groin. Despite the pain and bleeding, Schimmelpenninck finished out the show. In a subsequent Facebook status, Schimmelpenninck revealed that after the show his scrotum had ballooned up to the size of a grapefruit. He was quickly rushed to a hospital where they removed 500 ML of blood from his scrotum and had his ruptured testicle stitched up. He described the event as “one of the most unpleasant adventures I’ve ever had to endure.”’

 

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Imaginarte Niceballs, 2018
‘Imaginarte presents Niceballs: a dangling prosthetic accessory that sticks easily, discreetly and efficiently to your desk. Its suspension rate creates a Euclidean curve that encourages relaxation and provides the few moments of escapism that we all need once in a while. So, after playing for a while with your balls you can change back your mode to “bust your balls”.’

 

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Norman Leto Testicles of a Man Digging with a Spade, 2006
Testicles of a Man Digging with a Spade is a short 3D animation. Confronting the image of male sex organs and the action of digging (most likely, a grave), the film becomes a metaphor of life and death, embedding existential content in a simple form.’

Watch it here

 

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Mao Sugiyama Untitled, 2012
‘Meet Mao Sugiyama, a 24-year old illustrator from Tokyo, Japan, who surgically removed his genitals and auctioned them off for people to munch on. Sugiyama exploded on the twittersphere in 2012 when he tweeted “[Please retweet] I am offering my male genitals (full penis, testes, scrotum) as a meal for 100,000 yen …Will prepare and cook as the buyer requests, at his chosen location.”

‘For this procedure, Sugiyama, who’s known under the guise of HC, or Ham Cybele, underwent genital-removal surgery to receive a bag full of his 6 inch shlong, testicles, and scrotum skin, rendering him asexual. Sugiyama screened himself before undergoing the procedure to ensure he was disease-free. With no intention of implanting female sexual organs or undergoing female hormone therapy, Sugiyama plans to remain asexual so as to rebel against the gender inequality he finds in today’s society.

‘Unsurprisingly, Sugiyama’s tweet got enough international attention for him to host a public banquet for 70 people. The severed genitals were cooked by Sugiyama for five guests who paid $250 for the outrageous meal. Sugiyama, who donned a chef’s hat, prepared the meal in front of curious onlookers and feasters. The meal comprised of his sautéed genitals with button mushrooms and Italian parsley. The meal was served following the Japanese food safety and medical waste regulations. The rest of the 70 attendees were served a comparatively less-captivating meal of crocodile or beef meat.’

 

 

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p.s. Hey. ** _Black_Acrylic, Hi. So happy you like her work. She’s amazing. Play Therapy to the rescue in the nick of time! Mega-yum. Everyone, here’s a brand spanking new episode of Ben ‘_Black_Acrylic’ Robinson’s upper- and lower body liberating force of a podcast Play Therapy ready to dave your weekend from its doldrums ands ills. This week: ‘Ukrainian experimentalism, Russian Dungeon Synth and for his beloved late father Pete, some Avant-Garde Jazz freakout too.’ Go here post-haste! Thanks, Ben! ** David, Interesting. I always thought LOL was ‘lick out labia’. Boy, was I surprised. I know the name Ruby Wax, but I’m blanking. Easy enough to fix that. Have a legendary weekend. ** RY / ANGUSRAZE, Now I want to legally change my first name to D3nni5, but I think I’m too lazy to do the necessary paperwork. Right, I remember that air pressure eye test thing. That was weird and kind of exhilarating. Round glasses. I love them in theory and in practice too. They don’t work on my face sadly,. My reading glasses are just the usual boring sort of oval shape with kind of flattened out tops. I kind of wish granny glasses would make a comeback, the kind that, like, Arthur Lee and that guy in The Byrds wore in the mid/late-60s with one blue lens and one red lens or whatever. Lucky you on the clothes reinvention. I’m allergic to fabric and dye and have to wearing boring organic clothes. I’m not a Kanye West fan, I have to say, sorry. Not even really the early good stuff. To me he’s a savvy producer and arranger but his content, i.e. his ego catharting and his meh use of language, just kills it for me. But I know I’m fairly alone in not digging his early stuff, so fuck me. Anyway, if you’re excited by it and getting things for your own work, that’s the best and all that matters. I’m hoping to drink in your EP this weekend. Psyched. xo, me. ** Tosh Berman, Mm, I’m not sure if I’ve seen the Menil stuff. You know, I’m sure, that he has big two-part retrospective here in Paris right now at the Pompidou and Pinault Collection that is heaven on earth. He’s my favorite artist. He and I are really good friends, and we used to hang out all the time, and he and his ideas about sculpture were a gigantic influence on me and my writing. We started hanging out when I was working on my novel ‘Guide’, and I think that’s the point where my fiction took a huge leap forward due in large part to my starting to think fiction as a kind of 360 degree sculptural material thanks to his ideas. I think I’ll try to watch the ‘Mishima’ film this weekend. I think it’s on my go-to free/illegal site. I think it must have been my {NSFW] designation that set off the Facebook filter. I would normally put that designation on today’s post, but I’m going to skip it to be safe. ** Dominik, Hi!!! I’ve seen her work in the States, but I don’t think she’s ever shown here in France, which is criminal or something. Even meek would be a windfall here, but I think springs already sprung here, so … *sad face*. I am going to try together the bottom of the milk thing. My assumption is that they must inject milk with horrible chemicals here to keep it from decaying, but I’ll find out and let you know. I haven’t heard the new Iceage song yet, so thank you love for his prescience.Sticking to the theme, love making Vår reform and hiring Zac and me to shoot all of their music videos, G. ** Bill, Hi, B. I have read some of AL Snijders’ stories and liked them a lot, and that new book translated by Lydia Davis is on my must-buy list, now bumped to the top thanks to you. So, yeah, thanks! Have a weekend that necessitates no finickiness on your part. ** Misanthrope, Hm, not sure why that FB thing happened. 12 to 14 per day sounds all right. I’m a just-under-a-pack-a-day smoker. Sometimes a whole pack, but never more. Seems reasonable to me. Bon Saturday and Sunday! ** Conrad, Hey, Conrad! Excellent to see you, man! I’m very happy you liked the Liz Larner work. I wish her work was shown here. I want to see Yves Tumor. Has that grift already happened? If not, I need to get my tickets. Yikes. Thank you about the haunted house event. We’re just about the start finishing the ‘game’ itself, making it into an actual playable video game and making it more complicated inside. I very highly recommend the big Charles Ray shows at Pinault and the Pompidou if you haven’t seen them. I do want to see some of the Sonic Protest shows. Puce Mary’s for absolute sure but there are others too. I need to sort that out. I think you’ve seen ‘Permanent Green Light;’, but, if not, it’s showing in Paris at a little film festival next Saturday afternoon. Info. Yes, let’s coordinate re: SP. Great about the Théo Casciani interview. I don’t think I know his work. I’ll do google translate on the interview if nothing else. You have a truly excellent weekend too, my friend! ** Maria, Isabella, Camila, Malaria, Gabriela, Oh, it’s just this silly device that supposedly can pump your cock bigger, but it’s obviously just a scam. Did you have a marvelous weekend? ** Shane, Thanks, Shane. ** Verity Pawloski, Thanks, Verity. ** Steve Erickson, Hi. Yoga helped me, but I don’t know how universal its goods are. Obviously, finding a way to zone out and relax your body can only help if not even do wonders. Oh, interesting question. I would suggest Grandrieux’s ‘While Epilepsy’ as far as his ‘dance’ short films go. ** Brian, Hey, Brian. Suspense, eh? Mm, so I guess they want to test your skill in taut editing and tension-building music choices our something? I’m allergic to suspense, but, yeah, people sure do want films to work that angle. Anyway, interesting challenge, I guess. Seeing friends is ultimately the best, no? In the grand scheme of things. So, enjoy. I’m going to try to do that too. Yeah, as I said to Tosh, I think I’ll try to finally watch ‘Mishima’ this weekend assuming I can find it. My weekend looks pretty lowkey. Have to work on the script faux-revising. I have my Zoom book club tonight. We read Borges and watched a Fritz Lang movie. Not sure what else. Should be okay. I hope you are utterly and repletely non-exhausted for the art 48 hours. ** Right. I feel pretty certain that this weekend’s post is self-explanatory, so I’ll just leave you to it and see you on Monday.

Galerie Dennis Cooper presents … Liz Larner


black iris, 2021

‘ORCHIDS, PENNIES, BUTTERMILK. A sphere made from sixteen miles of surgical gauze and a cube woven out of thin strips of copper. Sly arranged marriages between rubber and wood; leather and false eyelashes; sand, stone, and bark. Gossamer lattices and sheets of chain. Forms rendered in polyurethane, steel, and bronze; in found objects; in porcelain and ceramic. Viewers who have only encountered Los Angeles–based sculptor Liz Larner’s work piecemeal across her more than three-decade career might be forgiven for feeling a certain bewilderment in the face of the stylistic and material diversity that has characterized her admirably restless practice from its very beginnings. Now the subject of a welcome survey—the most expansive overview of the artist’s oeuvre in some twenty years, curated by Mary Ceruti, director of Minneapolis’s Walker Art Center, and currently on view in New York at SculptureCenter, where it was organized by interim director Kyle Dancewicz—Larner’s exhilaratingly heterogeneous works can finally be considered in relation to one another, and in ways that demonstrate the conceptual threads that have always united them.

‘Two early pieces in particular articulate the kinds of formal alterities that Larner has frequently sought out and conspired to hold in productive tension. Made within a year of each other, in the first phase of her career, Corner Basher, 1988, and Bird in Space, 1989, could hardly be more dissimilar. The former is an instrument of destruction—a small wrecking ball flung back and forth against intersecting walls by a motorized stanchion that owes a bit to both Jean Tinguely and Survival Research Laboratories—while the latter is an ethereal space-filling filigree of silk and nylon inspired by Brancusi. Both, however, diverge from their inspirations in crucial ways. While Corner Basher exerts the same sort of brute force that Mark Pauline’s chaotic mechanisms do, the critical difference is that its destructive energies are activated not by the artist but by the viewer—jettisoning hierarchical command and control in favor of a modality that privileges spectatorial agency. And if Larner’s Bird in Space echoes the elegance of the Romanian master’s signature work, it also strategically expands its field of engagement toward her preferred schema, from unidirectional regard to attentively multivalent, embodied encounter.’ — Jeffrey Kastner, Artforum

‘I came to being an artist after studying photography in the 1980s at CalArts. I had studied philosophy and transferred there in my third year, and what a lucky break that was. It was a very interesting time, that particular era, and what we were reading and discussing made me decide that what I wanted to do was make things. In some sense, I never had an education in being a sculptor. My work started with incredibly basic questions like What are materials? What does it mean to make something? I remember being at that stage in my life and thinking, Well, you know, I could be a photographer, but I think that would be bad for me, almost spiritually, for lack of a better word. I felt like I needed to engage with the physical world and not be behind the camera making images of things—not having that additional distance, but being in my body and making work about being embodied.

‘I didn’t have a “unified vision”—and I’ve stuck with this and have never considered it a detriment—because I felt that materials and forms have so many different potentials. That could be why I’ve never had an identifiable style. I think this is part of what has been confusing for people. In the beginning, I would do a show that was about something, and then I would do another show, and for me it was clearly the next thing to do, but it wasn’t really in relation to the last show for anyone but me. I wouldn’t say that there’s no throughline. I would say that there’s a throughline that isn’t recognizable because it’s not the kind of throughline that people have come to expect. Part of it is trying to come up with different ways of getting people to engage with sculpture—and sculpture is the best way for this to happen—with all their senses and movement. I’ve come to call it encountering, though I wish there were a better word. But it’s amazing how it happens. That means of reception is a lot of what I’m working with.

‘Obviously materials and color are important, as are concepts of reality and illusion. And I think pathos is something that runs through my work, and this goes back to some of the very first things I made, the culture works. This thing is alive, and it’s digging through layers of colored food. And then it makes its own bloom. And is resplendent. And then it starts to die in front of you! I had started making sculptures essentially as receptacles for the cultures; the way they were suspended in space was a big thing for me. Coming from photography, you take a photograph, you figure out how to frame it. But to put a petri dish in front of people, that’s a problem. And that rapidly spilled over into making these sculptures that were informed by what I thought the cultures were about. The sculptures have come in all manner of materials—rubber, chain, silk, wood, metal, leather, fabric, found objects, ceramics. The past decade or so with the ceramics is one of the most sustained engagements I’ve had with one medium. And one reason for that is that ceramics let me do things that I always wanted to do but that took too long, specifically to get to the color part. It seems to bug people that I won’t say if the ceramic pieces, because they’re on the wall, are paintings, sculpture, or ceramics. I don’t know what they are. I don’t think it really matters, and they probably have a little bit of all of those forms in them. I wanted to work on the wall and still consider it to be part of my sculptural practice because I’ve doggedly persisted with the idea that I’m a sculptor. Hey, walls are spaces too.’ — Liz Larner

 

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Further

Liz Larner @ Regen Projects
Liz Larner @ Galerie Max Hetzler
Liz Larner: Don’t put it back like it was
LIZ LARNER: UNSTILL LIFE
Liz Larner and the Upcycling of Material
Liz Larner’s Corner Basher channels the helpless and hopeful rage of our day
The Horrific Beauty of Plastic Polluted Sea Foam and Asteroids Meeting on Earth
Liz Larner by Jane Dickson
Surgical gauze, false eyelashes, ceramics, bacteria, and steel
Liz Larner Makes Sculptures For A New Era
Liz Larner – Why I Create
From pedestal to petri dish
4 Questions: Artist Liz Larner
“Space is better than time, but time is okay”
Liz Larner and the Physical Power of Objects

 

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Extras


Liz Larner – The Artist’s Studio


(At Home) On Art and its Ecologies: Artist Talk with Liz Larner


LIZ LARNER AT REGEN PROJECTS


Artists on Artists: Liz Larner on Chris Burden

 

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Interview
by Pac Pobric

Liz, I don’t think we know your work all that well in New York, but you’ve had seven solo exhibitions at Regen Projects in L.A., you show with Max Hetzler in Europe, and you’ve been making work for 30 years. I want to congratulate you on the show. It’s really impressive. One thing that struck me is that it could almost be a group show. You have all these very different kinds of things. How do you avoid falling into old patterns?

I have said that kind of jokingly, about the group show. But there are patterns, though they don’t always play out the same way. I would rather have an idea that gets put into different guises, and see what happens. I usually work in shows: I’m doing a show, and it’s about something, and then I move on to the next. But this kind of thing, where you’re taking stuff from 30 years ago and putting it together—it’s really a credit to [the show’s organizers, Walker Art Center director] Mary Ceruti and [Sculpture Center deputy director] Kyle Dancewicz. It was so gratifying to see their interpretation.

Do you remember Hands (1993), near the stairwell? When I made that, people were just so dismayed, because it was going in a direction they didn’t think I was going. It was disappointing to them; it threw them. People thought I was a post-Minimalist or something, but I never thought of myself as a post-Minimalist. I was working with forms and colors before, and it was abstract, but abstraction and figuration have never been areas that couldn’t blend. I wanted to do both. I wanted to include all of it.

And maybe there was a conceptual aspect to it. I was going to [show at] Sonsbeek [in the Netherlands], and they had me come over to Holland to look at some sites. I was at the Gemeentemuseum. There were two statues across this courtyard from each other, and both had their hands knocked off. It just made me think: it’s such a classic necessity in sculpture, to do the hand. And I thought people could follow along. When I first showed it, it was in Paris and the show was called “Possibilities of the Existence of Meaning, Without Words, Inside Disorder.” Then I showed it again in New York, and the show was just titled “Without Words.” It was about a gesture. There are only 10 hands in that group, but depending on how they’re presented, they read very differently.

You use a lot of wordplay in your titles.

I love language, and I’m in awe of great writers. I don’t know how they can do it. The most I can put together is a title [laughs].

But they’re very evocative titles.

Well, thank you, I am proud of my titles. They really help me to add another element, and I play around with it a lot. The “Cultures” are titled after what they’re cultured from. So Orchid Butter Penny (1987)—that’s from before, when I was just putting stuff in petri dishes. But I got an inoculating wand eventually, and I went to the Twin Towers and took cultures from the front doors, and to the Empire State Building and took an inoculation from the roof. That’s what’s in Primary, Secondary: Culture of Empire State Building and Twin Towers (1988).

It seems important that you live and work in L.A. Have you ever read anything by Mike Davis? I’m reading Ecology of Fear, I’ll just read you the blurb on the back. “The classic book on L.A. as a locus of ecological destruction—in culture and in reality.” What’s so fascinating about Davis is that he’s good not only with social and political history, but also ecological processes and facts. It does seem like you Californians are forced to confront the natural world more so than we do in New York.

I don’t know Mike Davis’s history, but I was born at the end of 1960. I grew up on a farm in the Sutter Basin, about 60 miles northwest of Sacramento. I grew up next to the Sacramento River. There were crop dusters that sprayed DDT on the field next to our house until I was seven. My encounter with nature and culture was impressive, even as a young kid. And then when I moved to Los Angeles—Los Angeles has changed so much [over the years], but it’s very wild. I’ve seen a family of raccoons running across the street and diving into the gutter. There are animals all over the place. I’m also super interested in Joan Didion. That’s someone who had a huge influence on me. It really tears down the mythos of California, which is this makeup on top of a corpse.

Since we’re talking about the environment, one of the questions I sent you before we spoke has to do with the fact that in the past, you’ve said that the built environment is the world of men, and you’re not interested in repeating those forms. Would you call your works feminist forms?

Okay, so I had to write this down. I’m just going to read it: “New forms look like things that we don’t recognize, that there aren’t yet words for. They are invisible to most of us. I try to see them but probably miss a lot of them, even though they’re all around. Maybe new forms aren’t made by humans. Maybe we only copy them when we see them. I’m not sure of this. I guess they emerge and someone says, ‘Look,’ and then they have to change.”

And then I have, “I think that some things that are currently being called assemblages can be considered feminist forms. Something that is together, but flexible and unfixed; linked, but free moving; mixed in a knot in a way that is together and emergent. Something that can accommodate its own indeterminacy. Something capable of adaptation.”

Let me ask you some specific forms. I know you’re really interested in corners. What’s important or interesting about corners?

You know what I just found out? My husband—he does music—and I are actually moving out of California. So we’re building a studio, and he’s been figuring out how he wants to make it. And one thing that’s fascinating and new to me about corners is that sound gets trapped in them.

I did not know that.

Yeah. And corners are places where things intersect, and start and end. Do you know the artist Eric Wesley? He’s a California artist. He’s going to be in the Whitney Biennial this year. He spoke on a panel last week at Sculpture Center about my work, and he brought up Corner Basher and said something that was really astute. He said, “Though that’s the name, it is not the action of the machine.” And that’s really true. The machine cannot quite get to the corner. I’ve made a number of works that address the corner, and none of them do the same thing. It’s a place to keep thinking about.

I should mention that with Corner Basher—I’ve never, not once, not for a second in my life, been afraid at a museum. And I was legitimately afraid! It’s not only extremely aggressive, it’s also remarkably unstable because it’s on wheels. And it spins really fast!

It could go on even higher. I turned it down because when I first got it, it really did get too unstable. I first showed it in L.A., but when I showed it in New York at 303 Gallery, it didn’t have attachments [holding it] to the wall. It was in a corner and the on/off switch was right by the elevator. This woman came in, turned it on, and turned it all the way up. But because it wasn’t chained to the wall, it started moving towards her. And they had to come out and save her, or it would have been bad. What I like is when you turn it off, it has this weird tetherball balance. It’s just—it’s so overly dramatic, that piece.

One final question on photography, because you have a photography background. How has it contributed to your work as a sculptor? Most artworks today are consumed through images. Is there anything you try to do to account for that?

You know, I honestly believe that sculpture cannot be photographed. It cannot really be conveyed. And that’s what I love. That’s what I wanted to deal with. That’s why I think people are happy with my show: there’s this other side to the thing, about walking around the show and being embodied, and really sensing the material. That’s not available on screens. It gives you a different kind of knowledge.

Your work really does seem to resist the culture of the image. Before I saw the show, I had just seen pictures of your work, and I didn’t understand anything until I saw it in person.

I take that as a compliment. To me that’s like, I’m doing my job.

 

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Show


iv (inflexion), 2014–15

 


i (calefaction), 2014-2015

 


Liz Larner, Untitled, 2001

 


RWBs, 2005

 


Wrapped Corner, 1991

 


Corner Basher, 1993

 


Firestone, 2019

 


Copper cube, woven, 1988

 


2 as 3 and Some, Too, 1997-98

 


Two or Three or Something, 1998–1999

 


6, 2010-11

 


Asteroid (Spock), 2020

 


boney ridge, 2016

 


X, 2012

 


smile (alluvium), 2010-11

 


Guest, 2004

 


Devex Yellow, 1997

 


Hands, 1993

 


Tropicana Pool Water, Mercury and Guitar Strings, 1987

 


Fix, 2011

 


Every Artist Gave a Breath, 1988

 


Every Artist Gave a Breath, 1989

 


Ignis (Fake), 1999

 


Reflector Wizards , 1992

 


No M, No D, Only S & B, 1990

 


smile (abiding), 1996–2005

 


yes this too, 2015

 


yes this too, 2015

 


Untitled [Wall], 2001

 


Smile, This is a Pipe, 2006

 


Gone, 1987-1992

 


Lux Interior (Platinum), 2012

 

 

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p.s. Hey. As you may have noticed, my blog is suddenly requiring me to moderate the comments and approve of them individually before they can be posted. I have no idea why, and I’m hoping to get rid of this nuisance/ glitch today, but, in the meantime, just know that I’ll obviously give my approval to all the comments, and no worries. ** David, You know what, I’m not surprised, ha ha. Yes, I’m not sure if the words ‘Kip Noll’ are on Facebook’s watch list, which would be very strange, or if my designation of [NSFW] is newly a red light to Facebook or what. How annoying. Cheers in return. ** Dominik, Hi!!! Glad you dug it, pal. I know, scary. When I first moved to Paris, not that long ago, we used to get a few serious snowfalls and coverings every winter. It’s true there are some shades of blue that are completely unacceptable. Good eye, love. Love explaining to me why milk is sold in France only unrefrigerated and why milk in the United States is only sold refrigerated, G. ** David Ehrenstein, The age of yellowed porn! A friend of mine back in the day was the cameraman on ‘Pacific Coast Highway’. ** Misanthrope, Kip would never become a huge star today. But then neither would Frankie Avalon. Okay, very vague memories of Jack Hannah now. Those kinds of shows weren’t really my TV scene. Genetics are mysterious, for sure. I mean, not only have I never gotten Covid, I haven’t had so much as a head cold ever since the pandemic started. Fucking weird, man. Big up on the lessening of your cigarette intake. How much do you smoke per day du jour? ** Steve Erickson, Hi. Yeah, I’m curious to see if my blog wil get that Facebook warning every day now or whether it was Kip Noll-specific. Stress will totally do that. Have you ever done yoga or anything like that? I used to do yoga years ago when I used to get especially stressed out, and it did seem to make a real difference? ** Tosh Berman, Hi. Like I said to Steve, I’m curious to see if my blog will now be permanently stuck with that Facebook trepidation thing. I hope fucking not. I complained, but we all know what complaining to Facebook results in: zip. Counterpoint, yes. I don’t know Alias Books East. Cool, I’ll hit next time time I’m in LA. Thanks, sir. ** Verity Pawloski, Hi. Oh, horror. Have you managed to dry out? I have a neighbor upstairs whose toilet (directly above mine) likes to overflow once or twice every year and turn my bathroom walls into an ugly abstract painting. ** Maria, Isabella, Camila, Malaria, Gabriela, You’re most welcome. He could try a penis pump? Happy day! ** Bill, Ha ha. I had Kip in one of my pieces too. A poem. Not a good poem, but it wasn’t his fault. My friend the artist Richard Hawkins made a number of pieces that incorporated Kip’s “brother” Scott. What’s up with you, bud? ** Colin Herd, Hi, Colin! How very, very lovely to see you! I just recently found an old post wherein Kevin Killian introduced one of your books, and I’m going to restore it soon. That was big fun: Glasgow in general, and of course the pizza munching. I don’t know what Muay Thai, but I’ll go find out. Cool, and … ouch! That’s a serious commitment. Brenda Frazer: Oh, that’s very interesting. I didn’t recognise the name, but I just did a search and found out she used to be Bonnie Bremser. I did read poems by her under that name ages ago, maybe in an anthology (?), and I remember being very taken with them. Thanks for the link to the Kickstarter campaign. I’ll go chip in a little. What a fantastic project. I really hope it comes to pass. I’d love to read her work more thoroughly. Thanks, Colin. You sound great! I hope somehow I’ll get to see you ere too long. As ever, please come visit Paris! We’re all up and running over here again. Love, me. ** R Y /\ /\/ / angusraze :), Hey, dude. Oh, wow, yeah, definitely birds not of a feather or whatever they say: you and your bro. I’m with you on trashy TV. Even people talking animatedly about that shit on social media makes me fear for the world. Interesting about your parents. Yeah, my artistic bent came out of seeming nowhere too. Well, my grandmother was a ‘Sunday painter’, so I guess there’s that lineage. Mishima’s great, yeah, as a writer. Have you see the Paul Schrader film ‘Mishima’? I haven’t. I’ve meant to. Some people swear by it. Anyway, cool research. Big up to you! ** Brian, Hey, Brian. It was fun to make that post. Took me into realms I normally don’t traverse when building posts. Ah, you all get the same script. Well, I hope it’s minimal and malleable. Do you know what it generally is? Like, is it a bit of an existing film, or did your prof write it? You probably don’t know yet. Interesting. I remember thinking ‘Festen’ was the best Dogme 95 film. Although I would imagine ‘Julien Donkey Boy’ gives it a serious run for its money. Those two classes do sound dreary. I’m glad you’re over their hump until at least next Tuesday. I hope your life raft weekend comes complete with all the amenities. Interesting plans? ** Okay. Today I give you a galerie show by one of my very, very favorite sculptors, Liz Larner. If you happen to be in/around NYC, there’s currently a retrospective of her work at the Sculpture Center, and I seriously envy you. Enjoy the show, hopefully, and see you tomorrow.

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