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TheFrenchBoy, 18
My ideal would be to present as a 50+ man. Would like to fast forward and celebrate my 57th birthday as a man with male pattern baldness, suited and totally representative of that age.

 

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neonfuckingrockwell, 19
Human abandonment slave.
Name Yeom Doo-hyun

All personal information including face and body are disclosed.
Anyone can meet yourself and take pics and videos.
I abandon and distribute the ownership of all my pics and videos and I will never stop it.
Disseminate and spread all my photographs and videos.

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neonfuckingrockwell (Owner) – Jan 16, 2020
Clearly not me in the pic

 

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darthvader, 22
Equipment:

diving suit
kirby morgan bandmask and superlight 17b
finest rubber mask
studio gum mask
gas mask
air max 90 collection (100+ sneakers)
stunt skates
SEGUFIX

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EvilMan – Jan 20, 2020
Kissing is his sexual energy “ON” button.

aminxl – Jan 18, 2020
clown

 

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eternal_abyss, 21
Hey, I have been getting into rimming a guys ass. It turns me into a cum fountain. I also have had some shit end up in my mouth while rimming a guy and would like to be taught to chew and embrace it rather than spit it out and not embrace it. But not if you look like Elton John.

I’d like to start with rimming ass and then work my way up from there. Ideally I would be fed bits of a guy’s fecal matter with some food or drink at first to start to get used to it and work my way up to being fed parts directly and then finally to eat full logs.

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eternal_abyss (Owner) – Jan 8, 2020
Some old men who look like Elton John think they can buy young boys. Sad world. I am NOT for sale and I am (obviviously) NOT interested in old men that look like Elton John. Very sad that I have to say this.

 

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No1cares, 22
I kneel before you as a blank canvas for you to paint with piss and cum.

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No1cares (Owner) – Jan 17, 2020
P.S. I’m not from Minecraft or I’m not pixelated in real life.

 

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MrAmbitious, 18
Hi there! I’m a young and rookie to all this and need some help. I’m 18 M, single, clean, virgin, kind of a Emo/femboy… ish? 😅 I am in my last year of high school and afterwards going to college to get into acting/theatre. I’m into BDSM, dungeons, bondage, assplay, piss, fucking, public, watersports, blood, scat, incest, vomit, kissing/making out, blackmail, human ashtray, burns, and basically everything. I have TONS of extremely filthy, nasty pics AND vids I need to share. They’re all solo tho since I’m a rookie… need someone else in them in charge of the using and topping bleeding and vomiting and struggling so forth… alright enough naughty talk, bye bye

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MrAmbitious (Owner) – Jan 22, 2020
Hi, ha ha ha … fuck!!! I made this profile 5 years ago when I was an Emo drug addicted hedonist and I forgot all about it until today. I’ve changed and I’m a 23 year old car mechanic now, married (to a woman) with 2 sons. I’ll post a couple pix if anyone’s curious to see what became of me. Later, weirdos.

MrAmbitious (Owner) – July 18, 2015
Hurry as I will be taking a break for a couple of months in the new year to spend time on myself and do other things I like.

 

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ethan1654, 18
Hello, strange one but I have a bf who I love dearly but he is not into any kink.

I am looking for a daddy to train me up as if I was your son like in real life. Need you to spank me when I’m bad. Fuck me when I look good .. teach me stuff .. etc.

Punishments can be anything you want I guess. Spanking, cane, paddle, chores, no food, forbid me to see my bf.

Weird I know but if you can help that would be great kinda nervous about it too.

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EatADick – Dec 30, 2019
I wanna skullfuck you. But have your shit together, I’m not a sugar daddy. Skullfuck (you with a good humble attitude) is my main interest. I’m too lazy to tie you up or such. Bonus points if you have a half a brain and other passions in life beside dick to talk about (though yea definitely be passionate about dick). If you play uke, banjo, or guitar and have pointers even more bonus points. Serious bonus points if you know a queer friendly hair/beard barber in Richmond or 25 mile radius. Went to same guy for years but can’t find one I like now. Kinda making me crazy.

LovePassedOutGuy – Dec 27, 2019
I have somnophilia. I like you. Would you willing to pass out for me and then have some chilled sex?

 

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snuffme, 18
Name says it all. It’s all I think about. Let’s make it happen.

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Sniper – Jan 18, 2020
Sniper out for you if you still out for it. Just looking to snipe at you fast clean done.

imii – Jan 10, 2020
he was hot sexy and full of Guts .. 🤣

Anonymous – Jan 8, 2020
Chances are the snuff photos are fake, let’s face it. But I know the guy who wrote this profile peripherally. He is a dark fucker. I haven’t seen him around in a while. That is him in those photos. The look on his face in the bottom photo is very uncharacteristic of him and gives me the willies. Just saying. Hope not. Peace, out.

Anonymous – Jan 8, 2020
Fake! Disgusting!

Anonymous – Jan 8, 2020
snuffed, bratislava 28/12/19. 2 photo series, ltd ed, 10k each. 1st series, drugged, 18 poses, 6 nudes (top sample #1). 2nd series, dead, 21 poses, 8 nudes (bottom sample #2). contact “s-king” if you know where.

#1

#2

snuffme (Owner) – Nov 3, 2019
In a rush! So many looking to get snuffed above all these I’m ready now and have passport!

 

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Maxwell_Gunnxarsen, 18
no one is like my bro 🔝❤ find me the best one 🔝🔥❤

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HughJanus – Jan 5, 2020
Roses are red
My life neato
Get nude
Hail Satan Despacito

EDDY-M – Jan 2, 2020
he haves a great ass hahaha besides handsome hahaha

 

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JackSpaced, 19
HMU if you too have rough sex with strangers as a coping mechanism for your loneliness/depression and know very well that it’s only a temporary physical distraction from a low internal state but continue to do it anyways. Anyone into needles 💉?

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SadistBomberjacket – Jan 24, 2020
You’ll wear a bomberjacket, a hoodie and a tracksuit. I will punch you with boxing glove, kick your balls…
I’m not experienced… so be prepared for unexpected !
I’ll tie you to a punching bag, blindfold you and make you moan with each of my fist hitting you. Haven’t you ever dreamed of a guy taking care of you like that with a hood over your head so you cannot see your attacker?
I already have a boyfriend. It’s just not imaginable for me to do that things with my BF…
BE CAREFULL, from there it becomes weird !
I would love to play double dragon 2 on NES with you… both of us wearing a bomberjacket, hoodie and trackies… I used to play this game and it made me so horny to punch and to get punched… that would be so great to meet someone loving that too. I’ll probably never meet someone loving that, but if it’s the case for you and to prove it, tell me something about the game that you like !

 

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andthenyoufly, 19
I’m a small bottom with a genetic condition called fabry, and I play into this with my sexual preferences and how I act.

Fabry:

Pain: Full body or localized pain to the extremities (known as acroparesthesia) or gastrointestinal (GI) tract is common in patients with Fabry disease. This pain can increase over time. This acroparesthesia is believed to be related to the damage of peripheral nerve fibers that transmit pain. GI tract pain is likely caused by accumulation of lipids in the small vasculature of the GI tract which obstructs blood flow and causes pain.

Kidneys: Kidney complications are a common and serious effect of the disease; chronic kidney disease and kidney failure may worsen throughout life. End-stage kidney failure in those with Fabry disease typically occurs in the third decade of life, and is a common cause of death due to the disease.

Heart: Fabry disease can also affect the way in which the heart conducts electrical impulses, leading to both abnormally slow heart rhythms such as complete heart block, but also abnormally rapid heart rhythms such as ventricular tachycardia. These abnormal heart rhythms can cause blackouts, palpitations, or even sudden cardiac death.

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andthenyoufly (Owner) – Jan 26, 2020
My cock is no longer functioning.

 

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Injun, 18
I am a Native American teenager
I am often seen as the foolish stupid beauty
and sure there is also something in the genes
Educated – somehow not
I am gay – maybe someday tranny or sissy
who knows
Born 11.3. 2001
look for a pedophile
no a partner
I’m 18 strictly speaking
nevertheless i am submissive
maybe something in the medical field
slutty me
I am sorry – that is it
I am not much of one to pour my heart
into my profile.

 

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Grimwood, 22
Aussie Goth jock into messed up
Ultimately you inside me but in a messed up way

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Grimwood – Jan 13, 2020
No I am Bob.

Anonymous – Jan 13, 2020
He looks like an Andy.
I have a couple friends named Andy and they all have similarities in the face he shares.

reveriediverge – Jan 13, 2020
That’s because he is not a Bob

Anonymous – Jan 13, 2020
You do not look like a bob

Grimwood – Jan 13, 2020
No my names Bob.

Anonymous – Jan 13, 2020
So you aren’t a Andy?
Well fuck sad

Grimwood – Jan 13, 2020
Whaha oké fair enough.

Anonymous – Jan 13, 2020
No.
You just look like an Andy

Grimwood – Jan 13, 2020
Don’t tell me you mean Andy biersack.

Anonymous – Jan 13, 2020
You look like an Andy. Is your name Andy ?

 

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faggydollslut, 18
My little boyfriend is a good boy! He gets straight A’s in school, he’s very smart and everyone says he has SUCH a bright future. There is just one problem. Me. All I want him to be is a slutty, girly, bimbo, dolled up cumdump bottom for hung, aggressive men!

I keep him on a diet of high dosage Cialis, cocaine and poppers, and locked in chastity to make sure he’s always hyped up and horny as hell. Every day after school hours and on weekends I invite tops to turn him into a used up, sloppy, panting, sopping, stinky mess!

My preference is for guys with massive cocks and angry attitudes who know their way around an ass. But more modestly endowed guys are perfectly welcome too, provided you are sex crazed enough to know how to maximise its usage. No cock is too big and no fuck is too rough.

When I first hooked up with my boyfriend he was an asexual nerdy, dweeby kind of boy very much in denial about his sexuality, but, thanks to me, he has VERY VERY VERY much left that all behind for my dream life.

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sman10 – Dec 31, 2019
you will never forget him .your thrustings to his butt will make you excited to the fullest. his wails will excite the maximum .his ass will cover all your excited penis.

Anonymous – Dec 26, 2019
This young man used to be a strange, ugly boy who took an instructional chess class with me on the weekends. I wish I had recognised him before we were in the middle of having filthy, messy sex because it made me feel nauseous.

faggydollslut (Owner) – Dec 12, 2019
I didn’t mention it because neither he nor I realised he liked being a toilet until you forced the issue, so thank you for the discovery!

fucking_mean – Dec 12, 2019
Not sure why he doesn’t mention this, but faggydollslut is very much a filthy pig! Obviously as that is not everyone’s cup of tea, he has many other non piggy kinks as he says. So pig filth and anything filthy. He absolutely loves scat. If you are looking for a teenage toilet, he’s your boy!

 

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boredwhore, 18
16 😒 I’m not too young you know 😂 link up 😊 maybe GAY 🤷🏽‍♂️

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boredwhore – Jan 27, 2020
Give me your cerdit card 😍

43sleazybbffvers – Jan 27, 2020
i would love to spend time up to my armpit in your arse

 

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wantittoend, 18
just got dumped by my girlfriend. im such an asshole. need to be raped. i don’t hate old guy.

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Toby – Jan 7, 2020
I would describe it as he is two books. One is big, bound in red leather, with weathered pages crammed with notes & scribbles in the margins. This book has a large gold capital “S” on the cover.
The other is journal sized, with a blue velvet cover, set with a silver cursive “g”. Its unmarked pages lined with silver are just waiting to be filled.

mdwesttorturer – Jan 1, 2020
If you play psychiatrist with him for a couple of hours and help him realise he’s a self-hating gay he is very obliging. The aftercare to rebuild his self esteem took another couple of hours and I was physically taxed from the rape by then so that was quite exhausting.

 

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be_planted, 20
Find someone planting me for days. Feed me and water me every day. When I’m planted, you can let me lick your feet, lick your shoes, use one or more false penis in and out of my mouth. Squat or sit and let me give you oral sex and lick your ass. You can humiliate me by urinating on my head, spitting, smoking ash, stepping on my head or face, and writing insulting words on my face etc. You can dig me out when you need me, like fuck my ass etc. When you’re done with me, you can plant me again.If you can come to me and plant me.

 

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Graffitiheart, 19
if you know me based on what I went to a month ago you don’t know me anymore, my evolution is constant, allow me to introduce myself again. at the moment I love Disney and also need to be wrapped head to toe in tape.

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DollLocker – Dec 25, 2019
Meet the new him.

bigstickler – Nov 28, 2019

NormanS – Nov 28, 2019
No!!! Not his ass!!! Are you crazy?!! You had better be lying bigstickler you selfish piece of shit!!!!

bigstickler – Nov 27, 2019
heads up to guys here looking for any ass action with him soon last night i put some disney on the boob tube taped him up ‘n’ brutally caned his buttocks into bloody steaks

 

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EcstaticAntagonist, 18
Well my name is Sam and im a pup as you can probably tell. Ive not done anything with anyone irl so im a complete vergin and hoping to change that. Im looking for something long term and not just a one nighter as much as i want that so badly id much rather have a long term relationship going on. Im into all sorts of garbage. Well my biggst fantasys are a white guy fucking an asian girl in front of me then after watching you fuck her i clean your dick with my mouth.and then im houseboy for a boss that begins to sexually harass me and i threaten #metoo so you raope my ass and breed it until your balls are empty. Btw im incredibly cutejust thorght thats worth saying

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masc6 – Jan 2, 2020
Pup-schmup. He’s just a piece of warm meat wearing a stupid mask. No need to be polite. After you fuck him, just empty a full bladder of warm piss down his throat through the mouth hole. That’s what I did. Woof.

handler99 – Dec 27, 2019
Look for pup who want act like a. Human maybe give up being dog be full human got a program for that that proven to work

EcstaticAntagonist (Owner) – Dec 15, 2019
I should say I’m also a furry and pornstar wannabe. I have different accounts on twitter for furry and pup.
As furry I’m called Fenix the Fox and Eclipse the Hussy. I have two fursuits that can use for sex.
As pup, I’m Pup Hex.
I do love to making porn videos.
On this site, I’m called myself EcstaticAntagonist so can have pup, furry, sub etc of me all in one account.
Richton is my username for Xbox and PlayStation. Richie is my real name. So RichstarX would be my porn name I guess :3

 

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Boqueteirinho, 24
sem frescuras para levar socada na garganta

 

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stupidmonkeyboy, 20
Hi I’m Felix but you can call me whatever. I was born and raised in Allentown Pennsylvania. I’m puertorican. I enjoy watching horror movies and horror tv shows. I love Harry Potter. I love to read books. I enjoy playing video games and board games. I’m very shy and have social anxiety. I’m more of a stay at home person. I love dogs and cats. My favorite food is Pizza.

I’m looking for an older dominant master between the ages of 35-70, must be 5’10 or taller, body type doesn’t matter to me, your dick size must be 6 inches or bigger. Must want a master/slave relationship with me. Must give me a weekly allowance. Have sex 6-10 times a day. Must want me to live with them. Must live in Pennsylvania. Must be weird kinda.

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stupidmonkeyboy (Owner) – Jan 23, 2020
Ok Cash and Go is also possible.

Ibadlyneededyou – Jan 16, 2020
His grandma is 56 years old and in perfect health.

stupidmonkeyboy (Owner) – Jan 14, 2020
I forgot to mention that I am right now helping out my grandma so I meant once she is gone.

 

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lostboy, 18
Yes I am 18 and yes I have ID!

I am looking for somone to look after me 🙂 Sometimes I need guidance, sometimes I need love, somtimes I deserve to suffer.

Sadistic guys intrigue me a lot.. looking for dating and long term not that into sessions I want to build trust with the right guy 🙂 if you enjoy inflicting extreme pain we could definitely get along!

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lostboy (Owner) – Jan 11, 2020
Hello thanks for checking my page out.

DontBeADick – Jan 11, 2020
Whoever made this fakest ever profile is pure evil.

 

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EmptySpace, 19
My thing is heavy breath control, and I like being strangled out. I also like being beatdown and knocked out with a punch to the head once in a while. I would love to make amateur videos to upload to pornhub (pm for the ones I do have up).

My ex did this sort of thing with me but he wasn’t really that into it and I felt like I was telling him what to do to me, I don’t want that, I want to be strangled by a sadistic men who know what they’re doing

I love the idea of being strangled by a couple or being a couple’s roommate with a neck they like to choke out all the time. I have been strangled out once by one man while his boyfriend punched me in the face and it was transcendent.

I can’t host because I live with my parents and I can’t drive due to anxiety.

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EmptySpace (Owner) – Jan 14, 2020
I may like being choked but sea turtles don’t… pick up your fucking trash!

EmptySpace (Owner) – Jan 8, 2020
DM me for sex only? go to hell.

 

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NamelessMusician420, 21
I’m Sam, 21 experienced musically gifted bi sub based in High Wycombe. I’m a singer-songwriter-guitarist, have a master but we both see other people and frequently talk about breaking up. I am open to everything that spares the good looking aspect of my face and my arms/hands and the more forced and aggressive the better. I have never been close to using my safe word. Can you make me say it? My safe word is “Harder”(; Connected dudes who can get my demo to A&R guys at big labels get a FastPass or label heads who can straight up sign me front of the line.

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NamelessMusician420 (Owner) – Jan 10, 2020
I would consider myself a pain bottom, since I am into being victimised in bed, but I like to be in control of my life. I am planning on being very successful in the music business to push my art into the public and to bring in money.

The problem with my current master is he’s addicted to my cum. He makes me jerk off in his mouth several times a day. I’m flattered in a way, but it drains my creative energy.

So, I would be looking for a horny violent master who can beat me appropriately and not allow me to cum by jerking off – ever again. In contrast to my artistic (business) life, I want to be condemned to eternal hornyness without relief.

lovealwayswin – Jan 10, 2020
So were you to break up with your current master, what would you look for in a new master?

NamelessMusician420 (Owner) – Jan 9, 2020
Thank you for asking. Much older people always compare my music to Leonard Cohen and sometimes Nick Drake. People less older than me have described it as The Cure gone acoustic.

lovealwayswin – Jan 9, 2020
what’s your music like?

 

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iamboysocute, 18
I’m into cute homophobic bullies around 19 yo. <3

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iamboysocute (Owner) – Dec 29, 2019
Buy me dinner first….just kidding beat me stupid

UHaveToSuffer – Dec 29, 2019
I will be honest here, I’m really messed up. If you pick me I’ll throw you violently around my bedroom until you’re bruised and scratched up and exhausted and your brain is mush and then I’ll probably rape you and then maybe fall in love with you but I’m not sure so don’t count on that.

 

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AsylumSeeker, 23
I want to become your permanent sex-slave. Like until I die. I will serve you day and night. My purpose in life will be to make you cum as often as possible per day.

To give you an idea who I am, here are some non-sex activities I like:
– Theme Parks (Either highly themed like Disneyland or extreme adrenaline rushes like the roller coasters at Cedar Point. I love all of them.)
– Adrenaline / Speed / Extreme or insane Activities: I like all kinds of exciting experiences. Let it be a bungee jumping, a parachute jump from an aircraft, an insane roller coaster or a survival training in the wild. Those kinds of excitements let me feel “alive”.
– Adventures: Camping, Hiking, Outdoors, Explorations and so on
– Bruce Springsteen
– Financial Markets / Investing strategies

As a general note: I am gay, because I like “real” dudes, not sissies who whine because of dirty nails. If you contact me, you should be aware that I am not changing my way of life because of your sissyness. The only possibility to change my life is to sever me from the rest of human existence.

My age limit is my age + 10 years. I think a relationship with a larger age gap is just not working out long term due to the generation gap (I was going to say it goes both ways, but I would fuck a 13 year old in a heartbeat)

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Anonymous – Jan 16, 2020
Please run in front of a steam roller pedo. Can only give you a better body or even better jump in front of a train!

 

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0bug, 19
I am a skinny white boy in Texas who self-identifies as a field nigger slave. I want a MASSA who will let me sleep in the big house and worship HIM. I only accept raw SUPERIOR SEED. In my mind I am a muscular black buck with big pectitties that lives to service WHITE MEN. Please let me be of service, MASSAS.

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Anonymous – Jan 4, 2020
Rare type of meat

 

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UnicornPie, 18
Well I’m Ryan I’m an 18 year old senior at Merritt Island High School. I may not look like it but trust me I am. And I’m looking for someone who can stretch me out. I love my ass eaten and my dick suck but I mainly love me the toy. I would also love to be toyed by multiple toys. I love having my butt stuffed with toys. I love being fucked by my dog. I’m very freaky.

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track – Jan 18, 2020
His favorite position is crying on the bathroom floor. Not a joke.

 

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Devilslikepopper, 24
I used to be a escort who insisted on condom use. Now I’m a anything goes whore who is turned on by POZ cock and wants a poz conversion, idk y.

I have no place, either you have one or in the car. If you have a place things can go rougher. I used to rent it 300$ a hour, now I’m a depraved pig.

I’m pouting in my picture, but I’m not being serious about it. I’m more of a frown photo guy.

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Shane – Jan 14, 2020
Join my cult. We are already over 6 teens. Please join my cult (so that we can continue to grow). All horny boys up to 24 are allowed to join the group!!! No matter if you are looking for sex, paid sex, sugardaddy daddy, master, or just friends. Join my cult if you are a horny young boy looking to fuck because fucking is cool 😁 😁

gelo0804 – Jan 7, 2020
be careful dont loose who u are.. u are funky..

Sgtgrumblez – Dec 20, 2019
I paid through the nose to screw him when he was escorting and it was so-so but after retiring he’s shed what conservatism he had to maintain to protect the merchandise and really “lets ‘er rip”, especially sexually (in a slut bottom “let ‘er rip” kinda way)!

 

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twinksarevalid, 19
With a sweet smile on my lips I will drag you into my bizarre realm of perversions and will push you to your limits – step by step. Every glance, every touch will let you deep-dive into a great new undiscovered world of the senses. Follow my lead and yearlong experience to turn your most inner hidden deviance into vivid reality.

I just love to play with you and to leave you absolutely clueless about what you are going to do to me next. I will make my new position as your obedient toy sound so enticing to you, there will be no escape. My presence will leave you totally bound – not only by my words, with your attention fixed on my radiant erotic charisma.

 

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WillidoIT, 19
Shy, shameful, fearful, lured into a situation I can’t get out of, put in a situation I can’t back out of, MUST discover my hidden, unspeakable nature

Comments

A_D_7 – Jan 14, 2020
No use in explaining things when it will just fall on deaf ears. Just keep making your work because it’s really thought provoking and has also been interesting to observe the reactions.

WillidoIT (Owner) – Jan 13, 2020
I don’t think I owe you or anyone here my art statement for the project, and little it matters if you consider it such or not, but I can assure you I’m not trying to trick or lie to anyone.

demonesque – Jan 13, 2020
Are you challenging us to ignore our erections long enough to speculate about why you “killed yourself” and get “the feels” as you Emos like to say?

SexyMan9511 – Jan 12, 2020
His photos are cringe.

Bi_guy_27 – Jan 12, 2020
I have no problem that he is trying to do this “Art Project” but why the fuck come to this place to do it instead of a more Art friendly platform? Its clear he is an egotistic, attention seeking child using an excuse.

tightholefiller99 – Jan 9, 2020
don’t bother trying to snag him. he won’t put out. his profile is an art project. he explained it to me but i didn’t know what the fuck he was talking about.

DanInKansas – Dec 27, 2019
Leg hair says 26

HumanDecay666 – Dec 27, 2019
I can’t tell if you’re 13 or 26

 

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PocketRunt, 20
For quite a while, I’ve been what you’d call a “plausible macrophile”. I have a weakness for tall guys, and love realistic size differences. However, being a macrophile, I still entertain the idea of shrinking or being shrunk by others, hence I wear clothes that are very too large for me. I’m quite short, 5’2″ but wish I was a bit shorter so more people would be taller than me.

I’ve long fantasized about a sort of dystopic society where society has split into two classes: Men (males over 6′ tall) and human pets (males my height or shorter). For clarification, a human pet doesn’t behave or function like any sort of animal–they still live a human life, but are simply regarded as something to be owned, and kept under the control of the superior Men. They receive what’s left over from the Men, so to speak. They’re paid less, their careers don’t go as far, there are areas of society closed off to them, walked about society on leashes by their Men, and so on.

The reason for this is that seeing the vast size of a Man brings out these sorts of feelings. If I’m around chin-high or lower to a Man, it hits me rather hard psychologically. To find a tall and/or big fellow to explore such a world, quite frankly, would be an honor, and I’d be happy and honored to just be a part of it.

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pjbcc – Jan 3, 2020
all he knows is eat mcdonalds charge his phone, twerk, buttsex, eat hot chip and lie.

 

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TheWhimperer, 20
I have fantasies where I want to be forced to have extreme pain and torture like being burned with cigarettes. Let’s make a horror movie.

 

 

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p.s. Hey. ** Shane Christmass, Hi, Shane. I had never heard of ‘Bananas In Pyjamas’ before I made that post, but I gather it being here is a ‘hell freezes over’ kind of deal. ** David Ehrenstein, Yep. ** Sypha, Hi, James. Just give every post on your blog, no matter what it is, a salacious headline. ** _Black_Acrylic, Hi. One wonders, of course, what exactly this is all going to lead to on almost every front. Nothing good no matter what, it seems safe to assume. Come back, Scotland. ** Steve Erickson, Well, in a world where Britney and Timberlake and even Bieber have become legacy artists, and she seems a bunch more talented than them, anything is possible. No news on the US publisher front yet, no. Grr. Whoever has the rights to ‘Haxan’ if anyone does, sure seems to be into make as much buck as possible from that thing. Its iterations are becoming countless. ** Damien Ark, Hi, Damien. Oh, no. Oh, Damien, I’m so saddened and so unspeakably sorry to hear that. Of course I remember Jonathan from his presence here. Words just completely fail. And he was so young. Yes, you need to stay yourself and strong and forge ahead and not feel disloyal or wrongheaded in wanting/needing to continue and to make the best of who you are and what you have as a person and artist. How you feel right now, being unable to imagine yourself so powerfully attached to anyone else, is the truth, but it’s a strange thing how truth evolves, and let it. The dead don’t want loyalty. They’re way beyond that. So, no, it doesn’t sound weird. God, I’m so, so sorry, man. I’ll look for a post like you described and restore it for him when I do, yes, of course. I hope you get through this devastating time as painlessly as possible, and know your future is huge, even if you can’t believe that right now, even if you think it’s terrible of you to believe that right now. Please let me know how you’re doing, okay. Lots of love from me. ** Armando, Hey there! Great to see you, man! I’m good enough. You? Yesterday, and every day of late and seemingly for the foreseeable future, was/is suckage incarnate over there in the USA, and it’s not so great for us outside either, yes. May we all consolidate our powers into a single power and destroy him and those who do his bidding. ** Right. Of course the month’s final day brings out the month’s slave cull as per always. See you on Monday.

 

‘Storm De Hirsch made her first motion picture in 1963, two years after the untimely death of Maya Deren, the woman who had virtually masterminded the avant-garde film movement in the United States. Although De Hirsch was born five years earlier than Deren, she was a mature artist — over 40 years old when she began her filmmaking career. Deren was only 25 when she made her first film — the classic Meshes of the Afternoon –and at the age of 44, she died.

‘Though they may never have known each other, they had quite a bit in common. Both women had created new names and personas for themselves; Deren’s were earthy and radical, De Hirsch’s more imposing and regal. Both had backgrounds in poetry and other arts; they were also deeply involved with primitive cultures and the occult. In making their first films, both were supported by their husbands. In Maya Deren’s case, it was an inspired artistic collaboration with Alexander Hammid in a short-lived marriage; Storm De Hirsch’s first professional collaboration with Louis Brigante was disappointing, but the personal relationship endured. Both women made lasting contributions to the American avant-garde film scene, within the limits of their times and talents.

‘The 1960s offered Storm De Hirsch many more options than the 1940s had offered Deren, allowing her to start big, with an ambitious feature-length story about three young women, living in Rome, loosely based on a poem she had written and on her own experiences. Brigante was associate director. Called Goodbye in the Mirror, part scripted, part improvised, it was shot on 16mm and later blown up to 35mm, at a total cost of some $20,000. Variety’s reviewer found it too uneven for a feature, and thought it might have been a sharp, incisive short. Even before its release, De Hirsch already had begun making short films that were much more suited to her painterly and poetic roots.

‘Independent, cheaply made underground films, she later said, were not merely a futile rebellion against Hollywood’s slickness, but were spontaneous efforts to create the equivalent of off-Broadway theater in the medium of film. De Hirsch’s first short film, Journey around a Zero, was made without a camera, simply because she did not have one. Using old black-and-white film stock and some rolls of 16mm sound tape, she painted and etched images of her imagination with a variety of discarded surgical instruments and the sharp edge of a screwdriver. Compared to the $20,000 cost of Goodbye in the Mirror, Journey’s cost was cheap indeed — practically zero. The visuals were pure abstract animation, which De Hirsch described as “a phallic invocation.” In her writing and especially in making her animation abstractions De Hirsch felt she became both man and woman, or either one — not for lack of sexual identification but with an awareness of a cosmic sexuality.

‘De Hirsch’s trilogy entitled The Color of Ritual, The Color of Thought, explored relationships of abstract animated imagery (this time in color) with live photography and what she called “voyages into buried continents of the self.” The very titles indicated her penchant for magic, myth, and ritual: Divinations, Shaman: A Tapestry for Sorcerers, Peyote Queen. In 1968 Storm De Hirsch was awarded $10,000 in the American Film Institute’s first round of grants to independent filmmakers — the only woman among the winners. With the money she made a mini-feature called The Tattooed Man, based on her poem of the same name; it was more episodic than her first film had been, like a “happening” more than a dramatic film, and more representative of her times. For her tenth film, Third Eye Butterfly, De Hirsch used dual screens, side-by-side, creating a 70mm effect. One critic wrote that this encouraged the viewer’s mind to give the two horizontal images a third meaning, as Eisenstein’s montage of two images on a strip of film gave them an implied third meaning.

‘In 1973, for her Hudson River Diary series, De Hirsch used a handheld 16mm camera to create cinematic landscapes and waterscapes shot from a moving train (Cayuga Run) or walking along the frozen water’s edge (Wintergarden). These films began to look more like visual poems than movies based on poems or films for which she had written poetic descriptions. Sometimes for convenience or safety’s sake, she shot on Super-8 which later was blown up to 16mm. When she was given a cartridge loading Super-8 camera to take to the Venice Film Festival, she began her Cine-Sonnets series. Filmed in England?s Heathrow Airport, on the train from Rome to Venice, or in her Venice hotel room, each was three or four minutes long, short and edited in the camera. No random shots of this and that — as her first European film had been — each carefully selected shot was framed by her eye and mind and hand, beautifully lighted by nature or perhaps by God Himself. As the films outwardly became shorter and simpler, inwardly they grew richer and more revealing.

‘With Louis Brigante’s death in 1975, Storm De Hirsch lost not only her much-loved companion of some 25 years, but also the studio where they had worked, much of her creative energy, and ultimately her health. As she succumbed slowly to Alzheimer’s disease, eventually she lost all memory of her achievements in film — the retrospectives at New York’s Whitney Museum and the Museum of Modern Art; her classes in visionary filmmaking at the School of Visual Art; lectures and screenings in Pennsylvania and Ohio, Vancouver, and Brussels, and at many film festivals and women?s programs. At the time of this writing, Storm De Hirsch continued to survive in a Manhattan nursing home with this long and devastating illness. Her fascinating role in independent cinema has yet to be well documented and assessed.

‘Comparison with Maya Deren deserves these further comments. Deren was something of a genius, far ahead of her times in virtually everything she did. Storm De Hirsch was an extremely talented filmmaker of her time, exploring many aspects of film as an artist’s medium. The very title of her film, Peyote Queen, shows her to be an outspoken product of those times — the rebellious sixties, the Beat Generation, the hallucinatory decade. It is a sad footnote to those times that although P. Adams Sitney played a major role in one of her major films (The Tattooed Man, 1968), Sitney’s seminal book on American avant-garde cinema (Visionary Films, 1974) does not even mention her name.’ — CECILE STARR

 

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Stills

 

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Further

Storm de Hirsch @ Film-makers Coop
SdH @ LUX
SdH @ IMDb
Mythology for the Soul: The Collected Poems of Storm De Hirsch
‘PEYOTE QUEEN’: STORM DE HIRSCH, THE WOMAN WHO MADE MOVIES WITHOUT A CAMERA
Book: Twilight Massacre and Other Poems, by Storm De Hirsch
Storm de Hirsch and Shirley Clarke’s conversation (full length)
SdH @ letterboxd
SHIRLEY/STORM
Independent Filmmaker, Storm de Hirsch, Press Conference

 

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Extras

Excerpt: Jonas Mekas Walden (1969), featuring Storm de Hirsch

Gwendolyn Audrey Foster ‘Film for Storm de Hirsch’

Velvet Underground @ Village Gate, NYC, June 7, 1966, raw footage featuring Andy Warhol, Gerard Malanga, Barbara Rubin, Allen Ginsberg, Peter Orlovsky,Tuli Kupferberg, Ed Sanders, Storm De Hirsch & more …

 

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Conversation: Shirley Clarke and Storm De Hirsch
from Underground Film Journal

 

SHIRLEY: Do you think that lady film-makers are mechanically equipped to handle their field?

STORM: Well, if they’re not, they have other compensations […] The film has to be done in a certain way with Hollywood as the symbol and women were certainly never approached as directors.

[…]

SHIRLEY: Now there’s no doubt that as an industry, [Hollywood’s] reaction to women would be very similar, let’s say, to the advertising industry or the automobile industry or anything where a woman sits and has a certain slot. It’s a preconceived idea and they fulfill it and they allow them to be editors, which has always struck me as very strange, because anyone who knows anything about film knows that the very thing a film is going to say can be changed in the editing. […] And they will give that responsibility to a woman and yet would not allow her, supposedly, what they would consider the highest responsibility as producer-director.

[…]

SHIRLEY: Would you make a difference here in terms of, let’s say women film-makers: that they would be better off doing the kind of film that they can do entirely by themselves, where they got their own eight or sixteen millimeter camera and went out — or where they were in a position like you just described, where they are the director and therefore have people working with them and for them? […]

STORM: No. I don’t favor this whole business in the first place, of making a distinction between women film-makers and male film-makers. I think that when it becomes a creative process there is no distinction. It’s an imposed distinction which is imposed by people in the…

SHIRLEY: Well, historical precedents. In other words…

STORM: It’s a young field where not too many in terms of women enter that field, like they have the other arts, but still I don’t see any reason why it couldn’t have happened sooner except that there were these taboos.

[…]

STORM: I think that society was involved also in the act of film-making. It was very unseemly for a woman to enter into a field of this kind.

SHIRLEY: But why, because it never seemed unseemly to be a poetess or a painter and yet it was unseemly.

STORM: These are the definitions that are laid down by society.

[…]

SHIRLEY: It never occurred to me that I worked in a masculine field because of how I got in, in that I was a dancer and started making dance films on a very personal basis. It never occurred to me that masculinity and femininity and being in a field called film-making was not what I thought I was doing. […] In your case it’s true also.

[…]

STORM: To me, making poems and making films are one, and neither activity excludes the other.

[…]

SHIRLEY: Unfortunately, the cost of making films even now is still too high in reference to the immediate return on the investment; which means that you must have enough money to wait five years — you can make a film and then sit around for five years waiting to get your money back to make the next […] An artist can’t grow that way.

[…]

SHIRLEY: One of the things that people have said to me is how come — how did you ever get to make films? I said, you know, there are several possibilities. One, you could be independently wealthy. Secondly, you could be married to someone who is wealthy. Thirdly, you could find a way to scrounge. And then beg, borrow, and steal. […] How does anybody function in a field that really isn’t going to be lucrative and where your motivation – the thing that starts you — isn’t to make money but merely to maintain it.

STORM: Here we are, two “quote-unquote” lady film-makers. We’re talking, I assume, objectively — like any film-maker. I mean, what is the distinction here? We both operate differently. We have a different approach to our work. We have different concepts or goals, what we want to attain visually.

[…]

STORM: I think both The Connection and The Cool World are very powerful films and they have a sense of violence and they have a large sense of strength which, if one didn’t know, they would unquestionably be identified by most people as the work of a man.

SHIRLEY: And yet to me, it’s an endless give-away in both those films and in the one I’m just doing, that is, what I would consider a feminine way of looking at something […] violence personally, to me, is extremely repugnant. It’s something I’m terribly afraid of. And yet, I’m obviously very attracted to it.

SHIRLEY: Up to this point the only person so far who’s done a real woman’s film has been your Goodbye in the Mirror. In other words, for some reason, even so far, women film-makers have yet to deal with the subject of women. […] I’m jealous that you have been able to do it because I wish I had been able to do it.

[…]

SHIRLEY: Are you saying that you don’t think that there is any particular difference between a man’s film and a woman’s film?

STORM: No, I don’t. I consider both to be artists and that they primarily are artists first and male or female afterwards.

SHIRLEY: Because my own feeling is that there is a difference that hasn’t yet been revealed.

[…]

STORM: You do feel that the time will come when there will not be the labeling?

SHIRLEY: Yes. I don’t think there will be labeling. I don’t think anybody’s going to be concerned.

[…]

SHIRLEY: I’ve no idea what most men film-makers look like from reading reviews. […] Yet I can tell you what every woman who’s making films looks like — size, shape, her coloring. They are described that way.

 

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9 of Storm de Hirsch’s 27 films

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Newsreel: Jonas in the Brig (1964)
‘Anyone who remembers the historic contribution that the living theatre made to the New York scene couldn’t possibly forget their production of The Brig which was running when the government seized the theatre for non-payment of taxes. Jonas Mekas decided to make a film of the production to preserve its brilliance and in-depth dynamism. Actors, stage hands, and camera crew broke into the seized locked theatre with its impounded properties during the middle of the night. They recorded the play from start to finish in one night. Storm De Hirsch was there and she made a short newsreel called Jonas In The Brig. Not only was she able to capture a study of Mekas while he was filming, but also in the newsreel there is a tension and apprehension of the moment and even the panic of the possibility of not being able to finish the film.’ — Bob Lehmann

Excerpt

 

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Peyote Queen (1964)
‘Storm De Hirsch is one of those avant-garde goddesses without much name-recognition outside of underground film circles, but her influence and dynamism has always been lauded by peers. Jonas Mekas, for example (often referred to as the “godfather of American avant-garde cinema”), called her psychedelic classic, Peyote Queen, “among my favorites … beauty and excitement.”

‘De Hirsch was actually a published poet before transitioning to film, and as such didn’t have ready access to a camera early on. Her first improvisational techniques were innovative manipulations of whatever film was just lying around at the time, making her as much a “sculptor” of celluloid as a filmmaker. The results of her experiments are now recognized as foundational films in avant-garde cinema. In an interview with Mekas, she spoke of her early work, like Peyote Queen, saying:

‘”I wanted badly to make an animated short, but I had no camera available. I did have some old, unused film stock and several rolls of 16mm sound tape. So I used that—plus a variety of discarded surgical instruments and the sharp edge of a screwdriver — by cutting, etching, and painting directly on both film and [sound] tape.”‘ — Dangerous Minds

the entirety

 

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Goodbye In The Mirror (1964)
‘A dramatic feature shot on location in Rome. Centered around the adventures and illusions of three girls living abroad, the film explores their restlessness and personal involvments in assuming the role of woman as hunter.’ — S. D. H.

‘I, myself, belonging to the Spies for Beauty, Inc., and the humble monk of the Order of Fools, was allowed to peek at this film, and I couldn’t believe what beauty struck my eyes, what sensuousness.’ — Jonas Mekas

 

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Divinations (1964)
‘Divinations was completed in 1964 at the same time Storm De Hirsch was finishing her only feature film, Goodbye in the Mirror. According to the Film-makers’ Cooperative Catalogue No. 4, published in 1967, the music making up the film’s soundtrack is a ritual chant of a Maori medicine man and a Sicilian tarantella performed on a jew’s harp.

‘Also in the Catalogue, De Hirsch described the film as: “A film poem that records a psychic event in color, shape and sound. The inner eye reveals its visionary powers through a series of mystical signs and symbols, a collage of negative and positive images, incantations and sorcery.” P. Adams Sitney and Ken Kelman both called Divinations “Among the best films of 1964.”’ — Underground Film Journal

the entirety

 

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The Tattooed Man (1967)
‘A major work in terms of style, structure, graphic invention, image manipulation and symbolic ritual. Short, abbreviated dream-like moments, fused together like a tension and the dynamics of motion picture time… groping around for new myths. Symbolic invention and theatricalisation of dreams, and making them literal, is the whole function and purpose of movie making… her concept of the problem is sweeping and very large.’ — Stan Vanderbeek

The film can be viewed online here

 

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Third Eye Butterfly (1968)
‘THIRD EYE BUTTERFLY requires DOUBLE SCREEN projection, i.e., Reel #1 and Reel #2 are to be projected simultaneously on two separate projectors with one screen area directly adjacent to the other. Reel #1 is to be projected on the LEFT screen; Reel #2 on the RIGHT. Synchronized start marks are indicated by a punch hole on the leader of each reel. BE SURE TO OBSERVE THIS SYNCHRONIZATION! Sound must be open on one projector only during projection (Reel #1).’ — Filmmakers Coop

‘Where is the light coming from? The flavor of the colors are succulent to the long vision in the soul. How can dust cover the arrows of light? How can darkness favor oblivion in the face of light? The variations of soul-touch exist in the auras of illumination. The Great Eye dominates.’ — S. D. H.

‘The 70mm-like effect of THIRDE EYE BUTTERFLY encourages the mind to work as a third eye by fusing the two side-by-side screens into a third meaning, just as Eisenstein caused the meanings of two juxtaposed shots to result in a third implied meaning.’ — Casey Charness, Columbia University

 

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An Experiment In Meditation (1971)
‘The shape of change, the shape of memory has walked many miles in the mind to recreate a landscape, a manner of subterranean speech which may never reach its destination to the surface but roolls in the bloodstream swollen with speech invisible to the ear but palpable to the feelings that travel inside the network of the body/brain. The vision and the visitation occur simultaneously.’ — S.D.H

 

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September Express (1973)
‘A study of time in motion. An accelerated montage of reflections and landscapes framed in the window of an express train running from Rome to Venice. Dedicated to the writings of J.W. Dunne, the collage of Kurt Schwitters and the cubistic paintings of Braque …’ — MUBI

This film is available on MUBI

 

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Geometrics of the Kabbalah (1975)
‘5 is water, 5 is the letter X. 5 is distance. 5 says no. 5 laughs when divided into 2. 5 swims backwards, and space is five. The cherry tree is one. The hurt is 1 plus 1, the wish is two. The wonder three. The absence four, and the five is the Universe. The Universe in the head, the universe in the eye, the sky and the waterdrop.

‘5 is the unicorn in the circle, 5 can multiply, subtract, and dismiss. Divided and dismiss. 5 is the smoke of heaven, 7 unholy and 12 unmentionable. The privacy of Alpha and Omega is 12, the world is 12. The first and the last of the hunt is 12. 12 is the cry, the secret, the Great Mistake. 12 is the falling steeple. 12 stands high like the meeting of the gods because 12 are lurching altitudes beyond man whose life and death lie only in the 3. Stand 1 to 5, divide and topple. The points beyond the gate of 5 are sharp, walk carefully. 5 is the enclosure, 5 is the pointed start of the planet.’ — from Brook 16, “Source Books of Storm De Hirsch,” 9/24/66

 

 

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p.s. Hey. ** esme, Hi, esme. Well, the website in the novel is based on a real escort advertising/reviewing site that existed at the time. I had found it and grown fascinated by how the men commenting and reviewing there seemed to be using the escorts as mere inspirations to spin fantasies for themselves and for each other, and how the escorts themselves, who were presumably real guys looking for paid sex dates, ended up being totally derealised. And I copied the form of that website in the novel as it seemed to be some kind of perfectly designed trigger for all those sexual fairytales. The absence of women characters is to help make the setting and novel feel myopic and ‘utopian’ for the characters, such that the real world could be successfully excluded and not challenge or foreshorten their imaginative leaps, so the novel would become a private sexual fantasy in and of itself, if that makes sense. I hope that answers your question? Thank you! ** David Ehrenstein, Hi. I personally don’t care if Frampton was pompous or not. I’m interested in the work. When I used to curate and host readings and events at Beyond Baroque in the early 80s, some of the writers I hosted whom I really admired turned out to be assholes to deal with, but that didn’t change my admiration for their work anymore than the niceness of the nice ones did. I was their reader, not their friend. Everyone, Mr. Ehrenstein offers this share to those who are interested. David: ‘Now here’s a real find: A complete performance of the Original Chicago Second City from 1960. An hour and a half’s worth of the greats: Alan Arkin, Barbara Harris, Severn Darden, Paul Sand, Eugene Troobnick, Andrew Duncan and Mina Kolb. Most are gone now, alas. But Alan Arkin is as big a star as ever, Mina Kolb is on “Curb Your Enthusiasm” and Paul Sand (who the husband had a brief affair with back in the day) performs off and on at a club out near the beach in Venice (Paul is now 88 and his real last name is Sanchez). ** Thomas Greig, Hi, Thomas. Well, I wrote ‘The Sluts’ gradually off and on over as period of about 10 years, and it changed a lot during that time. For instance, I started it before there was an internet, so obviously it was a very different thing to begin with. Essentially, I was very interested in the power dynamic and mode of communication that happens between someone selling themselves as a sex object and those who are looking for a sex object. I was very interested in how someone would choose to present and advertise themselves thusly, what they would include or exclude, how or why they would lie or tell the truth, and similarly on the ‘buyer’s’ side, what they would wilfully forget or overlook about the intended sex object’s personhood and personal identity to make him the object they desired. That exchange, so coded and slippery with the truth, fascinated me as a place to create fiction. I hope that helps. ** Bonnie, Hi, Bonnie. Yes, my intention was to create participation in the reader, for sure. I kind of wanted the reader to be something like the commenters and reviewers, getting caught up in their game, sometimes seduced, sometimes skeptical, but also to not completely lose the humanity, I guess, of the young guys who might be ‘real’ people using their escort identity to play their own games. So, yes, boundary crossings, but, in the case of the reader, in a context that is clearly and safely defined as fictional. Thanks! ** Iulia, Hi, Iulia. Yes, I’m very exciting by virtual communication, both what it has already enlarged and complicated and simplified in terms of interpersonal connection and by the unknowns ahead. As a fiction writer, it presents enormous new ideas and forms to work with, so it feels like an incredible windfall in that sense. I’m interested in miscommunication. I’m someone who believes that confusion is the truth. So, for art in general, I find virtual communication nothing but inspiring. Obviously, social media can become a big mess when the issue is what is the truth, and obviously in regards to politics especially, but I’m kind of an optimist, and I think the frontier-like layout of online communication will gradually become a language that is graspable and less mystifying. Thank you! ** kier, Hey, hey, kier!! I think the Charles Ray show opens at the very beginning of June, so I think you’ll be here? Very excited to explore that amazing building the Pinault Collection is housed in. It’s in central Paris, at Les Halles. This is the building, and this is the central space. So hopefully you’ll be here to join the exploration. Land art near Paris? Maybe you mean the Michael Heizer show at the Gagosian space? That was temporary and gone now. I can’t think of any other Land Art around here unless I’m spacing. Cool that your prof. loved your drawings. I mean … no brainer, but still. And your day sounds both sparkly and productive, not bad, man. Me? I had to do some last minute shit work on the TV script, but that’s over. Hung out with my friend the writer Andrew Durbin, who’s the new editor of Frieze. I think I finished my new GIF novel. I’m going to check it over a few times, but I think it’s finished. Kind of quiet. Seeing Sunn0))) do a three night gig/residency starting on Friday, so that’ll be cool. Zac’s down south visiting his mom, but I’ll say hi as soon as he returns. All’s good. What’s new?  Big, big love!!!! ** Laura Baliman, Hi, Laura. It was difficult to write because I wrote it over a long period of time, off and on, ten years, and it took me a long time to figure out how to make it work correctly. It wasn’t difficult for me to write if you mean in terms of coping with the subject matter. I’ve written about that subject matter in different ways for a long time, and I’ve gotten to the point where I can be quite objective about it and concentrate on how to illustrate its power/assaultiveness while trying to challenge it too. Thank you. ** Schoolboyerrors, Hi, prof! Zac and I have already shot quite a bit of footage for the Fujiko Nakaya documentary, but we put it aside to make the fiction films. We hope to go back to that and make the film, but it’s been long enough that we need to meet with Fujiko and make sure she’s good with us finishing it. Also, we have a producer for the documentary now, whereas when she said we could do it, it was more of an experiment, so we need to discuss all of that with her, which means visiting Tokyo where she lives. We hope to do that and see her this spring. Sorry about the commenting issues. I’ve tried to get my host to fix that many, many times, but they can’t figure out what the problem is, so the blog is doomed in that sense, I guess. Love, me. ** Rebekah Rochester, Hi, Rebekah. Oh, I completely understand why someone wouldn’t want to read or finish reading ‘The Sluts’. It offers a particular challenge, and the decision of whether it’s a challenge one wants to take is 100% a reader’s. One of the things I love about books, novels, is that a novel can’t be born or exist without a reader’s imagination, and the reader has the power of life or death with a novel. I love how much power that gives a reader. I love how relatively balanced the power dynamic is between books and their potential readers. It’s very different, in that sense, from movies or TV or photographs where a viewer can be assaulted and transgressed at even an accidental glance. So, yes, people declining to read or finish the book is more than okay, it’s only interesting to me as the writer. Thanks a lot. ** Meg, Hi, Meg. Sorry about the problem of not seeing other comments. There’s some issue there with this blog that I haven’t been able to fix our get fixed. Mm, very interesting question. I don’t think I would have written the novel differently given the birth and development of highly visual platforms since I wrote it. Even at the time, there were a lot of visual components, for instance with the escort website whose form I copied for the novel, images showing the escorts were a very important aspect of the site and how it worked, but I decided to exclude them. I’m interested in what happens to the novel now that the internet is so rich and developed and offers a greatly more fleshed out and exciting context. I don’t think the answer is to try to turn a novel into some kind of book-shaped media outlet. I’m interested in how the challenge of the internet makes the novel a place where a writer is challenged instead to use language as complexly and vibrantly as possible in order to offer a different and unique experience. I think in terms of depictions of sex and violence in particular, the written word is a far better and more generous, accurate way to depict those things than video or other imagery. With imagery, it’s extremely difficult to get around the effect of shock or of base titillation. Imagery tends to greatly simplify sex and violence in a way that I find problematic personally. My interest is in those things as areas of exploration and of determining one’s own relationship to them, and I think the written word, in its passivity and drug-like effect, is a more fruitful way to interact with a viewer when it comes to those things. Thanks very much. ** Maia, Hi, Maia! You’ve been here before, no? It only greatly interests and pleases me that the novel would be taught in a course like that. I think of that context as being a situation where the novel will get a more attentive and detailed reading than not. So I like it. And, you know, I respect Diarmuid greatly, so I feel pretty confident that he’s teaching the book in a way that I would be honored by. Even though I left academia very early, after my first year at university, I do think of academia in a perhaps romantic and idealised way. Anyway, thanks. ** Nick Toti, Hi, Nick! Your friend’s work looks awesome at a glance. I’ve investigate/watch once I get out of here. Thanks a lot! Ha ha, of course I remember him from the film now. What a multi-talented fella! Hope all is great with you. ** Jabin, Hi, Jabin. Your reading of the novel’s dynamics and intentionality is very right on, thank you. Well, hm, in the case of the novel, I was mimicking a structure or structures that preexisted — the form of the website in the novel , the reviews, the chatroom, etc. — exactly mimicked the form of the site I was using as a model, and I was very interested to figure out how they worked as they did in the ways you’re speaking about — how/why it effected the participants/commenters and how/why it riveted an outside viewer, and in my case a writer who became obsessed with simulating or transposing or reinventing its effect in a novel, and, more precisely, taking its effect one step further where my viewership of the site’s goings on and my refinements/ alterations became yet another filter for yet another, more distanced viewer, i.e., the reader. So I was more of an explorer when writing the novel than someone with a preset idea of how the spaces and forms I was studying worked, if that makes any sense. I’m not sure I’ve expanded out as much as you asked. It’s a complex question that would be easier to answer if you and I were able to have a conversation around the topic, I think. But I hope that helps somehow. And thank you a lot. ** Patrick F, Hi, Patrick. Thanks a lot! I’ve always been interested, as I kind of explained above somewhere, in the exchange between the self-styled or self-invented ‘sex object’ and the person seeking a depersonalised ‘sex object’. Before the internet, I was interested in the real world equivalents — hustler bars, streets hustling, etc. But then the internet made it possible to pay attention to those exchanges in great detail without having to inordinately intrude. I don’t know why I’m so drawn to that particular kind of interaction. Something about it scares and confuses and excites me in a way that I want to understand, and writing is a kind of self-exploration for me in addition to being an art I try to master. Sure, I haunt various sites looking for ideas for my fiction and for just general pleasure, mostly stuff I geek out on like amusement park fanatic sites and experimental music sites and stuff. ‘Helicopter’ is actually based on something I wrote here on the blog, a seemingly true story about the death of Russian porn star. Bradford used to be a fairly regular commenter on my blog before Deerhunter got big. He’s a fantastic guy, and, obviously, I’m really honored to have had a part in inspiring ‘Helicopter’. Thanks a lot. Take care. ** Isla, Hi, Isla. I’ve been writing about the axis of sex and violence since I was a teenager. It’s always been something very powerful to me, and I’ve always wanted to understand why, and I use my writing partly to try to understand, or at least to organise, things that confuse me. I wrote a number of novels before ‘The Sluts’ that tackle that axis in different ways. It’s very tricky because, on the one hand, I want to try to get around the inherent assaultiveness and shock that that material carries with it, but, on the other hand, I want to give the material its power and force. The vast majority of art that tackles that area tends to neuter it, make it merely pornographic or horrific or use it as a venue for psychological analysis. For me, those reductions don’t answer the question of why that axis is so powerful. I am deeply interested in negotiating the issue of complicity between a reader and the writer and the material the writer is working with, yes. When I’m writing, I’m thinking almost exclusively about how to negotiate that in a way that is as fair to the reader as possible while not compromising the effect the material necessitates. I keep trying to find the right way to depict it, and ‘The Sluts’ is one of my attempts. Thank you for the question and about the blog too! ** _Black_Acrylic, Hi, Ben. Ah, the days when Damien Hirst didn’t make one’s skin crawl before one even looked at what he made. ** Steve Erickson, Hi. Really, high hopes? I hope it met them. I haven’t listened to the new Destroyer album yet, but if the incredible tracks I’ve heard from it so far are any indication, I expect it to be amazing. But I’m a massive fan of his, as you know. I think books are still seen as serious endeavors, even if not so many actually read them anymore. And God knows the world, or at least the US, right now is filled with people desperately searching for anything that they can employ to justify their knee-jerk censoriousness. Yawn. Sequels can never top the startle caused by the originals. ** Hi, Bill. Thanks, buddy. That Kerry Skarbakka piece is cool. I’ll go look for others by him. Yeah, I’ve always found Davenport’s writing to be quite witty, so I don’t understand either, but so it goes. ** Okay. Do you know the films of Storm de Hirsch? Well, now you do, or at least you have a golden opportunity to. I recommend utilising it, of course. See you tomorrow.